I've just driven the future
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Originally Posted by Rob88,Feb 16 2011, 11:46 AM
Every idea and invention has people who are for it and against it.
My guess is that the next 20 years will bring a huge jump in battery tech, just as the last 20 years has bought a massive change in computer technology.
My guess is that the next 20 years will bring a huge jump in battery tech, just as the last 20 years has bought a massive change in computer technology.
I doubt battery technology will ever be developed to the point where it is competitive with fossil fuel power.
I do however think that technology will be developed that will make electric transport, both mass and personal, viable. However we're nowhere near yet, and the thread title is "I've just driven the future", no, he hasn't, he's just driven a battery powered car, which will be obsolete within a decade.
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Originally Posted by soulcrew,Feb 16 2011, 12:25 PM
perhaps steve gobs should shove his i pad up his arse and invent something that actually benefits the world. rather than a reinvention of a ****** laptop for knobs.
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Originally Posted by MarkB,Feb 16 2011, 12:28 PM
I'm not against electric cars, but I don't think battery powered cars are the future.
I doubt battery technology will ever be developed to the point where it is competitive with fossil fuel power.
I do however think that technology will be developed that will make electric transport, both mass and personal, viable. However we're nowhere near yet, and the thread title is "I've just driven the future", no, he hasn't, he's just driven a battery powered car, which will be obsolete within a decade.
I doubt battery technology will ever be developed to the point where it is competitive with fossil fuel power.
I do however think that technology will be developed that will make electric transport, both mass and personal, viable. However we're nowhere near yet, and the thread title is "I've just driven the future", no, he hasn't, he's just driven a battery powered car, which will be obsolete within a decade.
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Originally Posted by Polemicist,Feb 16 2011, 12:21 PM
I'm sure 10 years ago there were those who'd have had the same opinion about the concept of the iPad...
I suspect you're embittered because of your age - you won't be around to appreciate the new golden age!
I suspect you're embittered because of your age - you won't be around to appreciate the new golden age!
other predictions have been made which will fail, despite some changes in behaviour
ie no-one will buy books anymore
and in any case, things like the ipad are not on the same scale as the things I gave as examples
I'm far from embittered about not being around when this country is torn apart by Civil War, you'll be compelled to have a beard or have your head cut off and there will be more mosques than churches
and everyone will drive a milk float
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Originally Posted by lovegroova,Feb 16 2011, 12:34 PM
Electric transport currently works extremely well for many millions of people. In fact, I used it to get to work this morning
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Originally Posted by ian_6301,Feb 16 2011, 01:52 PM
Correct.
The study to which LG refers was indeed debunked.
The one to which I refer looked (IIRC) at the carbon costs of car ownership, expressed per owner/household. This meant that the owner who had one car of a particular type, which he then kept for 60 years, had a proportionally lower carbon "cost" than one who bought a fresh brand new car every three years.
I apologise for not having explained that better in my earlier post.
I further apologise for citing a reference that I cannot now find, for love nor money.
However, I still maintain that there is a whole great lack of evidence to support the theory that the Prius is any better for the environment than, say, my 25 year old landrover 110. Yes, it may emit fewer grammes of CO2 per mile, but that's a small part of the (very) big picture.
I shall now retire to a safer place and await further retribution from Lovegroova...
The study to which LG refers was indeed debunked.
The one to which I refer looked (IIRC) at the carbon costs of car ownership, expressed per owner/household. This meant that the owner who had one car of a particular type, which he then kept for 60 years, had a proportionally lower carbon "cost" than one who bought a fresh brand new car every three years.
I apologise for not having explained that better in my earlier post.
I further apologise for citing a reference that I cannot now find, for love nor money.
However, I still maintain that there is a whole great lack of evidence to support the theory that the Prius is any better for the environment than, say, my 25 year old landrover 110. Yes, it may emit fewer grammes of CO2 per mile, but that's a small part of the (very) big picture.
I shall now retire to a safer place and await further retribution from Lovegroova...
I can't remember seeing many 60 year old Landrovers in my time I'm afraid, so whilst a 60 year time period carbon emission experiment may well reveal that overall CO2 emissions for one Landy vs, say six Priuses are lower, it's only likely to affect a tiny sample. Of course, it's worth remembering that pollution is not just about CO2.
In general terms, I'd put my money on a Toyota lasting a lot longer than a Landrover of any description
