Jailed for 9 months
Originally Posted by Polemicist,Oct 30 2009, 02:33 AM
In all of this discussion, one interesting piece of information has been overlooked...
He's a hairdresser from the improbably named Cockburnspath.
He's a hairdresser from the improbably named Cockburnspath.
No, it's gone
Originally Posted by GREGSTERWIZ,Oct 30 2009, 10:16 AM
Funny that...........I've never heard of anyone being sent to prison for doing 31 mph in a 30 zone or even 71 mph on a dual carriageway or motorway 

Originally Posted by ge2,Oct 30 2009, 10:30 AM
Apologies if I've missed the point, I'm busy and I'm skim reading, but is the suggestion that 165mph is no worse than, say, 95mph?
Expect that I suspect a lot of the outrage is from Mr Square because his Audi Foolscap TDS won't actually Do 166 and he's frankly envious.
He wasn’t jailed for speeding as such.
He was jailed for dangerous driving.
The court system, after looking at evidence, came to the decision that the speed he was doing on the road and in those conditions was dangerous driving not just speeding.
He admitted, in court, to dangerous driving.
Do I think this warranted a serious punishment? – Yes.
Do I think that he should go to jail for 9 months? – Maybe. Dangerous Driving can sometimes deserve a jail term. No doubt he’ll be out in much less than 9 months.
Do I think that the legal system is screwed up and the punishment for other crimes doesn’t seem to balance – Yes.
Is he being used as an example to others? – Yes. But that’s nothing new.
Was it unexpected? Not really, there’s a history of dangerous drivers going to jail, especially in Scotland.
Originally Posted by Rob88,Oct 30 2009, 10:52 AM
He wasn’t jailed for speeding as such.
He was jailed for dangerous driving.
He was jailed for dangerous driving.
Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Oct 30 2009, 10:41 AM
Extrapolate; it could well happen within our lifetime. pesonal freedom's only going in one direction.
Are you suggesting that, in order to enjoy his personal freedom, this man should be allowed to ride at that speed with no regard for any consequences ?
Or are you suggesting that (one day) we will be subject to imprisonment for minor offences such as exceeding the speed limit by a few mph ?
As I have already stated, it was the excessiveness of this offence which led to a term of imprisonment
And yes, he was made an example of
I don't think anyone here believed the propaganda about ‘Speed kills’ and the crazy people who want to limit everything to 40mph.
I would suspect that most people have various personal opinions of what speed they would consider ‘safe’ on an A-road.
But whatever each of our personal opinion are on speed and where we draw the line a whole lot of people think that 160 is very much on the otherside of the line.
Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Oct 30 2009, 10:54 AM
I refuse to be drawn as to whether that stetch of road was sufficiently open enough (Euan has his reservations) for the speed but in principle, it'd be no different from an Autobahn. In fact, if there are no hedges, there's probably less danger of errant deer than there are on an Autobahn.
This was an A road and as has been described on here by people who know the road, it was unlikely that the road was free from other road users
At 166 mph it would be impossible for the rider to take in everything that was going on around him (In fact I think he would struggle to see much apart from a blur)
Let's imagine a child crossing the road a quarter of a mile in front of him, or a broken down vehicle, or debris in the carriageway, etc. etc.
Do you think he would have time to react ?
There is only one answer to that question and I think you know what it is


