On keeping up
From Road&Track -my standard for stats since I was 11:
Randomly selected:
car,0-60,1320time@mph,60mph-0 ft,skidpad Gs,slalom mph,hp,trq,engine
Audi TT3.2qtro,5.1sec,13.7@99.9,115ft,0.93g,65.6mph,250 hp,236lbft,V6
BMW 335i,5.0sec,13.5@104.5,119ft,0.90g,68.7mph,300hp,3 00lbft,I-6tt
F430,3.8sec,12.0@119.6,114ft,0.94g,71.9mph,483hp,343lbft,v8
ExigeS 240,4.3sec,13.0@104.5,116ft,0.99g,73.3mph,240hp,170lnft,I-4s
EvoX GSR,4.9sec,13.6@100.9,124ft,0.97g,71.7mph,291hp,300lbft,I-4t
Nismo 350Z,5.3sec,13.7@102.3,120ft,0.96g,69.4mph,306hp,2 68lbft,V6
S2000CR,5.3sec,13.7@100.8,109ft,0.99g,71.7mph,237,162,I4
Cayman S,4.9sec,13.4@105.3,116ft,0.95g,70.6mph,295hp,251lbft,F6
From what I can see here, with the minor mods that Honda have applied to the original S to come up with the CR as the US have it, they HAVE kept up with their competition. Certainly in the handling department, and though still the lowest HP/trq, it is in there with some pretty serious machinery that have been significantly upgraded in power throughout the years.
Let's not even start to talk price here, where only the 350Z and EvoX are in the same ballpark as the S.
Case closed. Honda built the S2000 so well to start with, it only needed frustratingly (to S2k fans) small tweaks to keep up with the Jones.
The latest rendition of the car is still impressive by today's standards and its "lesser" equipment specs.
Randomly selected:
car,0-60,1320time@mph,60mph-0 ft,skidpad Gs,slalom mph,hp,trq,engine
Audi TT3.2qtro,5.1sec,13.7@99.9,115ft,0.93g,65.6mph,250 hp,236lbft,V6
BMW 335i,5.0sec,13.5@104.5,119ft,0.90g,68.7mph,300hp,3 00lbft,I-6tt
F430,3.8sec,12.0@119.6,114ft,0.94g,71.9mph,483hp,343lbft,v8
ExigeS 240,4.3sec,13.0@104.5,116ft,0.99g,73.3mph,240hp,170lnft,I-4s
EvoX GSR,4.9sec,13.6@100.9,124ft,0.97g,71.7mph,291hp,300lbft,I-4t
Nismo 350Z,5.3sec,13.7@102.3,120ft,0.96g,69.4mph,306hp,2 68lbft,V6
S2000CR,5.3sec,13.7@100.8,109ft,0.99g,71.7mph,237,162,I4
Cayman S,4.9sec,13.4@105.3,116ft,0.95g,70.6mph,295hp,251lbft,F6
From what I can see here, with the minor mods that Honda have applied to the original S to come up with the CR as the US have it, they HAVE kept up with their competition. Certainly in the handling department, and though still the lowest HP/trq, it is in there with some pretty serious machinery that have been significantly upgraded in power throughout the years.
Let's not even start to talk price here, where only the 350Z and EvoX are in the same ballpark as the S.
Case closed. Honda built the S2000 so well to start with, it only needed frustratingly (to S2k fans) small tweaks to keep up with the Jones.
The latest rendition of the car is still impressive by today's standards and its "lesser" equipment specs.
To heck with the Jones... it makes me smile.
Most of my fun is in the twisties where 95% of the competition really is poor.
If you do a track day with Bookatrack (let's take Donnington as my reference point) the batcats are poor on the straights but they are the quickest on the twisties unless of course you happen to own something rather more raw than an 7.
So boo sucks to to Audi, Nissan, etc etc
Would I buy another S? Well mine is 1 year old and I seriously considered trading in for another this year.
The S makes you smile.
The Nissan, Audi, Boxster etc etc just doesn't give me the grin factor
I works hard for me money... I want my car to make me smile.
And let Mrs G get in it without some wierd human gymnastics... sorry Exige :-(
Most of my fun is in the twisties where 95% of the competition really is poor.
If you do a track day with Bookatrack (let's take Donnington as my reference point) the batcats are poor on the straights but they are the quickest on the twisties unless of course you happen to own something rather more raw than an 7.
So boo sucks to to Audi, Nissan, etc etc
Would I buy another S? Well mine is 1 year old and I seriously considered trading in for another this year.
The S makes you smile.
The Nissan, Audi, Boxster etc etc just doesn't give me the grin factor
I works hard for me money... I want my car to make me smile.
And let Mrs G get in it without some wierd human gymnastics... sorry Exige :-(
Standard (2005) S by same Mag:
S,5.4sec,13.9@100.2,115ft,0.91,69.7,237hp,161ft-lb,I4
So there is a significant difference in performance, going by their definition of significant for the handling numbers.
S,5.4sec,13.9@100.2,115ft,0.91,69.7,237hp,161ft-lb,I4
So there is a significant difference in performance, going by their definition of significant for the handling numbers.
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