Moving on - What next?
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Originally Posted by PaulF,Oct 1 2010, 10:49 AM
As you seemed to like the TT, have you thought about an S4 or RS4 cab?
The S4 or RS4 are interesting to me but at the end of the day they don't excite me. I guess I am just talking about the looks really but I can imagine the driving experience to be not dissimilar to the TT.
I feel like they are run of the mill cars that have had nice engines plonked in with a bit of tweaking (suspension etc). I am looking for a proper sports car really.
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Originally Posted by surfymark,Oct 1 2010, 10:21 AM
Nick Graves: I am not sure this is entirely true. I ran the Fiat Coupe on winter tyres in snow ice and excess water and didn't really feel I had much more grip than on the standard ones. That was FWD though so may be a little different.
The TT however was a whole different story. I could go round an icy roundabout giving it all I could get out of the car and I never ever managed to step out the back. The S I have spun twice on wet roundabouts really not giving it very much at all. It feels totally different and does not inspire confidence.
I don't really want a car sitting in the garage depreciating away. Plus I have nowhere to put another car.
I looked at 911s when I was buying the S and decided I couldn't justify the £25-30k that they were up for at the time. I can justify £15-20k. I have a good enough income to run the car I feel and spending £20k would give me a contingency fund of £5k which should be more than enough for the first year.
Soulcrew: I did consider an Evo or Subaru but it is not really my scene. I am mid-30s now and would like something a little more refined. The VXR you had would be firmly on my list if it were 4 wheel drive. Any other suggestions gratefully received though.
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The TT however was a whole different story. I could go round an icy roundabout giving it all I could get out of the car and I never ever managed to step out the back. The S I have spun twice on wet roundabouts really not giving it very much at all. It feels totally different and does not inspire confidence.
I don't really want a car sitting in the garage depreciating away. Plus I have nowhere to put another car.
I looked at 911s when I was buying the S and decided I couldn't justify the £25-30k that they were up for at the time. I can justify £15-20k. I have a good enough income to run the car I feel and spending £20k would give me a contingency fund of £5k which should be more than enough for the first year.
Soulcrew: I did consider an Evo or Subaru but it is not really my scene. I am mid-30s now and would like something a little more refined. The VXR you had would be firmly on my list if it were 4 wheel drive. Any other suggestions gratefully received though.
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M
That 'knife edge' thing is what makes sports cars fun in the snow. The FIAT and S have no FREDs.
That TT invincibility is actually the FREDs doing the driving for you. You might want another Audi.
A good compromise is a Subaru, which is far less nannying and boring and still feels like a real car to drive, despite the security.
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More ground clearance & weight over the steering wheels, but hardly anything in it, really.
Given the choice, I too'd sooner have the 911 over a boring repmobile though. Although the C4 is a bit boring to drive, unless you really thrash it. By which time, you're going a bit quick. But I'm also not really a Porsche 911-type person, though!
I really can see the idea of an all-weather 911, but I don't think one car can ever be all things.
But back in a circle; if you blow your wad on a decade old Porsche, have you got enough for the big bills.
Given the choice, I too'd sooner have the 911 over a boring repmobile though. Although the C4 is a bit boring to drive, unless you really thrash it. By which time, you're going a bit quick. But I'm also not really a Porsche 911-type person, though!
I really can see the idea of an all-weather 911, but I don't think one car can ever be all things.
But back in a circle; if you blow your wad on a decade old Porsche, have you got enough for the big bills.
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Oct 1 2010, 11:16 AM
Ah right.
That 'knife edge' thing is what makes sports cars fun in the snow. The FIAT and S have no FREDs.
That TT invincibility is actually the FREDs doing the driving for you. You might want another Audi.
A good compromise is a Subaru, which is far less nannying and boring and still feels like a real car to drive, despite the security.
That 'knife edge' thing is what makes sports cars fun in the snow. The FIAT and S have no FREDs.
That TT invincibility is actually the FREDs doing the driving for you. You might want another Audi.
A good compromise is a Subaru, which is far less nannying and boring and still feels like a real car to drive, despite the security.
So I am not sure what you mean by FREDs but I assume it stands for something to do with nannying safety devices.
I guess the TT felt safe and therefore not as fun. The S feels fun but not as safe.
Back to the 911, how do think that would feel in terms of the above. What I would really like I guess is a switchable system. That is not really possible I guess.
I was under the impression that the 4WD system in the Porsche only came on when needed effectively. I think the Audi one does this also but maybe there are differences between when each system thinks they are needed!
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Oct 1 2010, 11:26 AM
More ground clearance & weight over the steering wheels, but hardly anything in it, really.
Given the choice, I too'd sooner have the 911 over a boring repmobile though. Although the C4 is a bit boring to drive, unless you really thrash it. By which time, you're going a bit quick. But I'm also not really a Porsche 911-type person, though!
I really can see the idea of an all-weather 911, but I don't think one car can ever be all things.
But back in a circle; if you blow your wad on a decade old Porsche, have you got enough for the big bills.
Given the choice, I too'd sooner have the 911 over a boring repmobile though. Although the C4 is a bit boring to drive, unless you really thrash it. By which time, you're going a bit quick. But I'm also not really a Porsche 911-type person, though!
I really can see the idea of an all-weather 911, but I don't think one car can ever be all things.
But back in a circle; if you blow your wad on a decade old Porsche, have you got enough for the big bills.
The Porsche specialist that I have been talking to has told me that none of his customers have spent close to that in a year ever (although he would say that!)
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After a few years all seasons in my first, stock, S and just one winter in the beast (supercharged one) I found Subaru's AWD just so much safer for everyday sh*t weather. There is a choice of body styles so it would boil down to (a) how much carrying space you want and (b) how high do you want to sit and consequently ( c) what handling do you want. All come with a range of power and turbos. They will eat petrol 
Impreza/estate; Legacy; Forester. Loads of choice in your budget.
Bullet proof reliability so I bought a new import for 60% list new to keep. It's now out of the 2 year warranty from Cyprus but no problems at all (except sh*tty Yokahama tyres which puncture easily on our roads round here). Not as smart fashion as the BMW Xs, Discoveries etc
But I FEEL smarter
Impreza/estate; Legacy; Forester. Loads of choice in your budget.
Bullet proof reliability so I bought a new import for 60% list new to keep. It's now out of the 2 year warranty from Cyprus but no problems at all (except sh*tty Yokahama tyres which puncture easily on our roads round here). Not as smart fashion as the BMW Xs, Discoveries etc
But I FEEL smarter
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A few of points on C4S's to think about;
1 - you lose some front boot space due to the 4x4 so not a lot of boot space
2 - the cooling rads (and hose) regularly rot as crap gets wedged underneath them ( I pulled a dead dried out blackbird for a mates 997 C4S this week) If this happens your £5k will seem like peanuts!
3 -drive it hard and it will eat ALL 4 tyres - theres £1k
Clarify your budget for us.
Is it your S plus £15-20k cash or just £15-20k cash, would you put any extra finance on top?
1 - you lose some front boot space due to the 4x4 so not a lot of boot space
2 - the cooling rads (and hose) regularly rot as crap gets wedged underneath them ( I pulled a dead dried out blackbird for a mates 997 C4S this week) If this happens your £5k will seem like peanuts!
3 -drive it hard and it will eat ALL 4 tyres - theres £1k
Clarify your budget for us.
Is it your S plus £15-20k cash or just £15-20k cash, would you put any extra finance on top?