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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2
NB I notice a lot of the sub 3 series have the 19s and similar bills, that would hack me off.
That's what I call the 'c unt test'.

If you're stupid enough to spec. such oversized wheels on a company struggle buggy...
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus
Originally Posted by gaddafi' timestamp='1341740136' post='21842433

The concept is good but I think using an M car for 9 years is going to be very expensive as the car ages

The S is nothing like as complex and expensive to maintain and I suspect you'd run out of enthusiasm for the one M car long before you reached 9 years - there'll be so much other interesting stuff out there to tempt (RS Audis, AMG Mercs, later M cars etc)

I baled out of my M5 after just over 4 years (planned to keep it for five) and when the car had just turned 100K

It was running perfectly at the time but I could see the future and the combination of depreciation, running costs and repairs simply didn't add up

I think CSL prices will be strong in the future but only for garage queeens - and such cars have no appeal for me


I had a look at CSLs and they are asking for mid twenties on a 70k miler. Weren't they about £70k new?

The only ones that are going to raise in value are the sub 30k milers that will be driven maybe once a year at a show.

The M3 GTS will retain it's value, but then it was daft value in the first place.
£58k new.

£32k for a good one.

9 year old car.
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by gaddafi
Originally Posted by Nottm_S2' timestamp='1341649964' post='21840703
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[quote name='Nottm_S2' timestamp='1341596298' post='21839019']
But a stock M3 with good kit is mid 60s
i don't know what they sold the matt grey one for
destined for a footballers garage

a 2-3yr old M3 is a bargain as a keeper imo, depreciation is stellar
they don't stop depreciating either

take at look at E46 (asking) prices

the V8 will be no different to the E46 or the E36 before that

they will depreciate all the way down to about £3K so I'm not sure I see them as keepers
I probably agree. The E46 chav wagon concerns me.

But its probably the best fast family car out there. We need something with a decent boot, back seats, something pretty strong but also when i'm in it alone i can have some fun. Depreciation doesnt matter if you keep it a long time. If i spend £32k on an 09, keep it for 10 years (had the S that long) it wont hurt me that much.

If you swap cars a lot they dont make sense imo, you lose >£10k per year over first 3 years.

The list price for that daft blue one is £74k
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The concept is good but I think using an M car for 9 years is going to be very expensive as the car ages

The S is nothing like as complex and expensive to maintain and I suspect you'd run out of enthusiasm for the one M car long before you reached 9 years - there'll be so much other interesting stuff out there to tempt (RS Audis, AMG Mercs, later M cars etc)

I baled out of my M5 after just over 4 years (planned to keep it for five) and when the car had just turned 100K

It was running perfectly at the time but I could see the future and the combination of depreciation, running costs and repairs simply didn't add up

I think CSL prices will be strong in the future but only for garage queeens - and such cars have no appeal for me
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I don't get the chav M3 quote, I genuinely haven't seen a single "chavved" E46 M3, although they must exist. The price of that car is silly though.

A mutual friend has just bought an E92 M3 for full list, I think it was £66ishK, daft thing to do IMO I reckon you could get a whopping discount if you really tried. Gad is right, I have an M car and wouldn't want to win one after 60 - 70k miles let alone 100k.

£70K buys a few very nice toys!

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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 12:54 AM
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It's tragic that the only 2 models that will hold their value, the CSL and the E30, will only do so if they spend their lives being polished in someone's garage or parked up in a field with the bonnet up being stared at by trainspotters. The exact opposite of what they're all about.

Over 80k on my E46 now. My head keeps telling me to sell but I'm still enjoying it too much and I just don't know what I'd replace it with.

Only something very, very dull makes sense but I think it's only the arrival of my next race car that's going to make that happen.

AP 6 pots going on today
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonsey Boy!
I don't get the chav M3 quote, I genuinely haven't seen a single "chavved" E46 M3, although they must exist. The price of that car is silly though.
You'e right, i meant the previous one but i guess it will come, and then to the e90s too.

You're also right about the price, prev gen m3s are virtually free. True of all ageing cars though bar supercars
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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I saw a 'flat' white 5 series in the dealer today.

Looked shit imo, trendy car for eejits?
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