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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 01:49 AM
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Ok, every day I jump onto the M6 for a couple of junctions and then onto the M56 for about 10 miles.

Most days lane 1 consists of me and a few evenly spaced artics with half a mile or so between them. Lanes 2 and 3 are nose to tail with 50mph traffic.

I could quite happily maintain 70mph between the artics and then move into lane 2 to pass them at the crawl speed of lane 2 but that means undertaking all the other cars in lanes 2 and 3.

If lanes 2 and 3 adopted the correct lane discipline we'd all travel much faster but the fact of life is they don't.

By law, am I therefore supposed to limit my speed to that of lanes 2 and 3 even though I have a clear lane in front of me?
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 01:56 AM
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no.

i always thought that if the outside lanes were traveling below the speed limit you can pass them on the inside.

its in the highway robbery code.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 02:00 AM
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It's a bit of a grey area and there are lots of internet debates on it.

Moving from lane 3 to lane 1 and back again to "undertake" is not good, and if you're caught, expect punishment.

Doing what is described by the OP might attract a word from the Police but you'd be unlikely to get punished as such.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 02:01 AM
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I think I'll go buy a copy to keep in the car then to slap people with who show me hand signals to show their displeasure at me going quicker than them..
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by soulcrew,Feb 8 2010, 10:56 AM
i always thought that if the outside lanes were traveling below the speed limit you can pass them on the inside.


I think there's something about 'due care and attention'.

And, I think, the outside lanes have to be queuing traffic rather than just going slower than the limit.
You can’t just hammer past on the inside of a car doing 50 on the motorway because he might change lane, but if the traffic is queuing then there’s it’s likely they won’t chance lanes back into the left lane.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 02:03 AM
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I never use lane 3 (Its too slow unless the motorway is emptyish).

People react very badly when you undertake them but if they used the lanes properly they'd have nothing to complain about.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 02:12 AM
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if they can be undertaken wihout being forced to change their driving in any way

then they are in the wrong lane

it's a simple enough test

if you undertake and force them to brake to allow you in, or slow/brake to re-establish a safe braking gap, then you are in the wrong
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 02:33 AM
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I dont think there is a grey area. From my recollection of the highway code 25 years ago it quite clearly talks about lanes 2 and 3 being for overtaking. You can undertake in lane 1 or 2 if the traffic is moving slower but in a traffic congestion situation.
In 25 years of driving I know exactly what a legal undertake is and what is not and it comes from what I learnt when I started driving. I also know exactky about lane discipline so I cant understand where all this moving diirectly to the right hand lanes come from. Why is it the UK that has terrible lane dscipline?
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 02:39 AM
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All explained here http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/motoring_answe...ndex.htm?id=147
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 02:59 AM
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Ah, I suppose it's the definition of queue that is where the confusion lies for me.
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