Shell V Power Nitro+
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From: 'Ampshire
Originally Posted by cheshire_carper' timestamp='1448176297' post='23809466
I used to work with a commercial lawyer who was responsible for a number of petrol firm contracts in the UK. I was told that all fuel in the UK is centrally piped up the identical pipe network, all fuel. Ie BP, shell, texaco, etc. (that includes petrol and diesel. A flushing agent is sent through between the diesel distribution and the petrol distribution). The only difference is the additives that the fuel companies respectively add, ie shell adds their special mixes, BP theirs and so on. But the base fuel is identical.
I don't know how true this is as I never investigated the comments but I found it intriguing at face value and it made me think about the different brands in a new way.
I don't know how true this is as I never investigated the comments but I found it intriguing at face value and it made me think about the different brands in a new way.
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From: Dunfermline.
It's about 12p difference around here, on a wee side note, my manager races go karts and at the last meeting of the season his fuel was tested for legality as he won the championship, bought the previous day at shell and he paid the premium for the good stuff, octane rating came back as .............. 89................ We all know fuel deteriorates sitting around but, maybe nobody around here buys Shell as two local tescos sell their premium fuel at around £1-09 compared to £1-25 for the Shell product.?
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From: ...by a lake...somewhere
Originally Posted by richmc' timestamp='1448178991' post='23809477
[quote name='cheshire_carper' timestamp='1448176297' post='23809466']
I used to work with a commercial lawyer who was responsible for a number of petrol firm contracts in the UK. I was told that all fuel in the UK is centrally piped up the identical pipe network, all fuel. Ie BP, shell, texaco, etc. (that includes petrol and diesel. A flushing agent is sent through between the diesel distribution and the petrol distribution). The only difference is the additives that the fuel companies respectively add, ie shell adds their special mixes, BP theirs and so on. But the base fuel is identical.
I don't know how true this is as I never investigated the comments but I found it intriguing at face value and it made me think about the different brands in a new way.
I used to work with a commercial lawyer who was responsible for a number of petrol firm contracts in the UK. I was told that all fuel in the UK is centrally piped up the identical pipe network, all fuel. Ie BP, shell, texaco, etc. (that includes petrol and diesel. A flushing agent is sent through between the diesel distribution and the petrol distribution). The only difference is the additives that the fuel companies respectively add, ie shell adds their special mixes, BP theirs and so on. But the base fuel is identical.
I don't know how true this is as I never investigated the comments but I found it intriguing at face value and it made me think about the different brands in a new way.
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So all fuels are basically the same base mix with a sprinkle of magic from each provider. So to say that nitro is refined differently can't be true; its better to say the nitro additions make it nitro, not the refining process. No idea if that's correct just applying logic to that what I posted and what is being said on this thread.
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From: Pontypool
You could argue that the refinement process isn't done until the ethanol is added, which I hear only happens once the fuel is already in the delivery tankers because it's so corrosive. Not sure how true that is.
But anyway, there's a surprising amount you can do in terms of altering chemical balance and behaviour by tweaking the last few percent of the mix. Cheaper fuels ultimately do leave deposits. Nitro+ doesn't.
But anyway, there's a surprising amount you can do in terms of altering chemical balance and behaviour by tweaking the last few percent of the mix. Cheaper fuels ultimately do leave deposits. Nitro+ doesn't.
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From: Costa del Cornwall
Originally Posted by richmc' timestamp='1448178991' post='23809477
[quote name='cheshire_carper' timestamp='1448176297' post='23809466']
I used to work with a commercial lawyer who was responsible for a number of petrol firm contracts in the UK. I was told that all fuel in the UK is centrally piped up the identical pipe network, all fuel. Ie BP, shell, texaco, etc. (that includes petrol and diesel. A flushing agent is sent through between the diesel distribution and the petrol distribution). The only difference is the additives that the fuel companies respectively add, ie shell adds their special mixes, BP theirs and so on. But the base fuel is identical.
I don't know how true this is as I never investigated the comments but I found it intriguing at face value and it made me think about the different brands in a new way.
I used to work with a commercial lawyer who was responsible for a number of petrol firm contracts in the UK. I was told that all fuel in the UK is centrally piped up the identical pipe network, all fuel. Ie BP, shell, texaco, etc. (that includes petrol and diesel. A flushing agent is sent through between the diesel distribution and the petrol distribution). The only difference is the additives that the fuel companies respectively add, ie shell adds their special mixes, BP theirs and so on. But the base fuel is identical.
I don't know how true this is as I never investigated the comments but I found it intriguing at face value and it made me think about the different brands in a new way.
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Just imagine how many millions of gallons would be needed!
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From: Chesterfield VA
Refining aside all gasoline comes (usually via pipelines) from the same refineries as generic and gets converted to brand names and octane levels at distribution centers rather like blending whisky. 
How is the "pump octane rating" rated in the UK? Just curious 'cuz all I've been able to rent the past few years when I visit are diesels.
North America motor gasoline (MOGAS) "pump octane ratings" are R+M/2 or the average of the research octane number (RON) and motor octane number (MON) which is typically 8 - 12 octane lower than RON. Gasoline sold here as 93 octane would probably rate 100 octane by the RON test -- and is what "premium" fuel was rated during the olde "muscle car era." Aviation gasoline (AVGAS) here uses the MON (lower) number.
The owners manual for North American cars specifies 91 "pump octane rating" which would be R+M/2. Are the UK or EU manuals different?
Shell 93 Vpower Nitro etc. makes a lot of claims. But since it's the same price as other premium fuel here and since there are two gas stations with minutes if me at all times I've been using it regularly.
-- Chuck
How is the "pump octane rating" rated in the UK? Just curious 'cuz all I've been able to rent the past few years when I visit are diesels.
North America motor gasoline (MOGAS) "pump octane ratings" are R+M/2 or the average of the research octane number (RON) and motor octane number (MON) which is typically 8 - 12 octane lower than RON. Gasoline sold here as 93 octane would probably rate 100 octane by the RON test -- and is what "premium" fuel was rated during the olde "muscle car era." Aviation gasoline (AVGAS) here uses the MON (lower) number.
The owners manual for North American cars specifies 91 "pump octane rating" which would be R+M/2. Are the UK or EU manuals different?
Shell 93 Vpower Nitro etc. makes a lot of claims. But since it's the same price as other premium fuel here and since there are two gas stations with minutes if me at all times I've been using it regularly.
-- Chuck
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A fuel filter doesn't stop oil and fuel carbonising on the back of the valve and seats.