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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tof,Mar 17 2010, 09:54 AM
And I thought we had nothing in common other than a car.
Unless you drive a Miata, we don't have that in common, either...
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bahula03,Mar 17 2010, 10:35 AM
Do you like or dislike this color on the S2000?

I like it. Of course, I also like orange shirts, so that may tell you something about my color choices...
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly,Mar 17 2010, 12:37 PM
Ironically, it's managers (especially at the bottom and top rungs of the management structure) who least benefit from formal education. At the bottom rung, you're basically dealing with converting work statements into units your non-management peons can do.

There's no training to turn a lousy first level manager into a good one.

At the top rung, a manager (CEO/President type position) is principally involved in vision and strategy. You can't teach that, either. Some people are good at it (see: Jobs, Steve or Gates, William) and some people aren't (see: Fiorina, Carly).


Everything in between is basically pushing shit into different piles, which is something that one can be trained to do well... even if you're a monkey.
Carly has vision...it just didn't work at HP. She was on absolutely the wrong page with the board, so it never worked out...

That said, I agree with the premise of your statement.

Of course, none of this contradicts my initial statement that it's for comparison purposes more than true value of the degree...
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly,Mar 17 2010, 01:39 PM
I'm not a fan of this shade (too "smurf blue" for me), but the only way to pull it off is with gunmetal wheels.
It's definitely an odd ball "loud" color, which doesn't really fit me...but I like it quite a lot. My concern seems to be a) am I going to be ok with an attention grabbing color in the long term? and b) do I like the way suzuka shows off the lines of the car and all the different shades of blue various lighting situations create better than the geek/cool factor of laguna seca blue?




...and some CE28s may be in order either way
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Originally Posted by brantshali,Mar 17 2010, 12:59 PM
Carly has vision...it just didn't work at HP. She was on absolutely the wrong page with the board, so it never worked out...
There are bumper stickers around here that say, "I Survived Carly Fiorina/The Carly Fiorina years"

. . . She had a lot of visions. . . and none of them, to my best observations, involved computers. . . which, is a problem if one is running Hewlett-Packard.
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Originally Posted by bahula03,Mar 17 2010, 02:02 PM
It's definitely an odd ball "loud" color, which doesn't really fit me...but I like it quite a lot. My concern seems to be a) am I going to be ok with an attention grabbing color in the long term? and b) do I like the way suzuka shows off the lines of the car and all the different shades of blue various lighting situations create better than the geek/cool factor of laguna seca blue?




...and some CE28s may be in order either way
I don't think any shade of dark blue is going to be a big attention grabber. Its uniqueness will only be noticed by the small minority who know S2000 colors.
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Originally Posted by 8D_In_Trunk,Mar 17 2010, 01:46 PM
There are bumper stickers around here that say, "I Survived Carly Fiorina/The Carly Fiorina years"

. . . She had a lot of visions. . . and none of them, to my best observations, involved computers. . . which, is a problem if one is running Hewlett-Packard.
I'm unconvinced that a CEO actually needs the experience in their industry. There are rational arguments both ways.
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Originally Posted by bahula03,Mar 17 2010, 01:02 PM
It's definitely an odd ball "loud" color, which doesn't really fit me...but I like it quite a lot. My concern seems to be a) am I going to be ok with an attention grabbing color in the long term? and b) do I like the way suzuka shows off the lines of the car and all the different shades of blue various lighting situations create better than the geek/cool factor of laguna seca blue?




...and some CE28s may be in order either way
a) no.

b) WTF are you talking about. . . Suzuka is the chick color (even though it isn't). The lack of sun has gotten to your brain.
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Originally Posted by brantshali,Mar 16 2010, 05:07 PM
I think the requirement is borne more of laziness on the part of managers than necessarily any real benefit of the degree. There are exceptions...but as a rule, college simply proves that you can stick it out through a drawn out process and achieve a given goal. It's easier to compare college degrees than it is for managers to distill a variety of "apples and oranges" experiences.

That, and it's simply another way to set management apart from the "commoners"...
My friends dad is a VP of a fairly large insurance company. And me and my friend were complaining about college too--and how if we networked we wouldn't need the degree. He took what we said very seriously and basically said what you just did.

"It's to prove you can do things and succeed; and learn new processes" etc etc. Not that it defines us as people--but shows our employer we simple can
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Originally Posted by 8D_In_Trunk,Mar 17 2010, 03:19 PM
...The lack of sun has gotten to your brain.
This.



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