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Originally Posted by zdave87,Feb 24 2011, 12:06 PM
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UnkieT, curious on your thoughts... I got in to a decent argument with my Aunt and Uncle whom are both very, very successful on sunday about this:
I mentioned that University of North Carolina Chapel Hill was my number 2 choice, Berkeley (Haas) number one, and UC Davis number 4 (UCLA #3).
They then tried to question why I'd want to go all the way to UNC and pay $30k/year for out-of-state tuition. I explain getting a business degree from a top-15 business school will do wonders for my resume, and ultimately my placement in to the business world. Especially since I want to be in investment banking/venture capital/mergers&acquisitions/hedge fund management. They argued that if I went there it wouldn't do anything for me out in the Bay Area more-so than a BS from Davis would. I told them that in business, especially where I wanted to go in business, it DOES matter where you go. Yes, ultimately I have to sell myself, but I need to be able to be let in the door to sell myself, and a degree from a top-25 opens those doors. They continued to disagree, and ultimately we went no where in the conversation/disagreement.
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I mentioned that University of North Carolina Chapel Hill was my number 2 choice, Berkeley (Haas) number one, and UC Davis number 4 (UCLA #3).
They then tried to question why I'd want to go all the way to UNC and pay $30k/year for out-of-state tuition. I explain getting a business degree from a top-15 business school will do wonders for my resume, and ultimately my placement in to the business world. Especially since I want to be in investment banking/venture capital/mergers&acquisitions/hedge fund management. They argued that if I went there it wouldn't do anything for me out in the Bay Area more-so than a BS from Davis would. I told them that in business, especially where I wanted to go in business, it DOES matter where you go. Yes, ultimately I have to sell myself, but I need to be able to be let in the door to sell myself, and a degree from a top-25 opens those doors. They continued to disagree, and ultimately we went no where in the conversation/disagreement.
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Originally Posted by espelirS2K,Feb 24 2011, 07:18 PM
UnkieT, curious on your thoughts... I got in to a decent argument with my Aunt and Uncle whom are both very, very successful on sunday about this:
I mentioned that University of North Carolina Chapel Hill was my number 2 choice, Berkeley (Haas) number one, and UC Davis number 4 (UCLA #3).
They then tried to question why I'd want to go all the way to UNC and pay $30k/year for out-of-state tuition. I explain getting a business degree from a top-15 business school will do wonders for my resume, and ultimately my placement in to the business world. Especially since I want to be in investment banking/venture capital/mergers&acquisitions/hedge fund management. They argued that if I went there it wouldn't do anything for me out in the Bay Area more-so than a BS from Davis would. I told them that in business, especially where I wanted to go in business, it DOES matter where you go. Yes, ultimately I have to sell myself, but I need to be able to be let in the door to sell myself, and a degree from a top-25 opens those doors. They continued to disagree, and ultimately we went no where in the conversation/disagreement.
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I mentioned that University of North Carolina Chapel Hill was my number 2 choice, Berkeley (Haas) number one, and UC Davis number 4 (UCLA #3).
They then tried to question why I'd want to go all the way to UNC and pay $30k/year for out-of-state tuition. I explain getting a business degree from a top-15 business school will do wonders for my resume, and ultimately my placement in to the business world. Especially since I want to be in investment banking/venture capital/mergers&acquisitions/hedge fund management. They argued that if I went there it wouldn't do anything for me out in the Bay Area more-so than a BS from Davis would. I told them that in business, especially where I wanted to go in business, it DOES matter where you go. Yes, ultimately I have to sell myself, but I need to be able to be let in the door to sell myself, and a degree from a top-25 opens those doors. They continued to disagree, and ultimately we went no where in the conversation/disagreement.
Thoughts?
The issue here is one of return-on-investment.
I believe they raise a good point at $30K/year. However, once you go get a Master's, you're going to long for the days of $30K/year regardless of where you wind up.
The, "where" in where you go has everything to do with what business contacts you make. You do clearly see the benefit in that by going to Haas over UNC, with UCLA clearly being in the mix as well.
If they're arguing that giving UNC preference over UC Berkeley and UCLA, then I have to actually agree with them. UC Berkeley and UCLA will deliver comparable educations (and rolodexes) for a lot cheaper. A degree from UC Davis will get you into any position within the state (and a few others outside) with zero issue. However, I do think that UNC would be worth the ROI vs. UC Davis.
However, what your aunt and uncle don't see is that due to the Internet, the notion of the localized or regional education isn't quite as important as it once was.
Understand though lastly, that it's the rest of your undergrad. Where you go for grad school will be even more influential in the "real world."