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Old Mar 11, 2023 | 02:47 AM
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U2
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Let’s Go !!!
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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 07:25 AM
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OMG my friend plans to go. I’d love to but I just wasted an extra week of vacation because we were stuck in transit. Plus, I don’t wanna jinx it but hopefully there will be a big trip in 2024 so I need to save my pennies.
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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 07:44 AM
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OMG my friend plans to go. I’d love to but I just wasted an extra week of vacation because we were stuck in transit. Plus, I don’t wanna jinx it but hopefully there will be a big trip in 2024 so I need to save my pennies.


Fail.
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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 12:35 PM
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Fail.
Safe (nuclear deterrent).

Never mind.

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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 06:57 PM
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OMG my friend plans to go. I’d love to but I just wasted an extra week of vacation because we were stuck in transit. Plus, I don’t wanna jinx it but hopefully there will be a big trip in 2024 so I need to save my pennies.
We are going. Just do it.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/review-u2...182437609.html
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Old Mar 14, 2023 | 09:44 PM
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U2's guitarist, The Edge, aka David Evans, is not such a nice guy. He submitted a plan to build mansions on an undeveloped ridgeline in the mountainjsn above Malibu. Over the next 14 years, Sweetwater Mesa became embroiled in one of the longest and most expensive development battles in the state’s history, pitting the North Dublin musician against California’s environmental regulations and dogged conservation groups. Finally, after at least 60 lawyers, lobbyists, and environmental consultants and more than 70 technical reports authored by geologists, biologists, hydrologists, archaeologists, arborists, structural engineers, and transportation engineers, the California judicial system has rejected Evans’s vision for his forever home. The final nail in the coffin came when the California Supreme Court decided not to hear Evans’s appeal of an earlier lower court ruling against him, finalizing an unexpected victory for the considerably less-resourced conservationists.Before last week’s culmination, the project charted a rollercoaster-path of victories and defeats, as laid out in part by the Los Angeles Times in 2016. The first hurdle that Evans had to clear before he could begin construction of his planned five-mansion compound was the California Coastal Commission, the agency tasked with oversight of development and public use of the state’s coastline. After assembling a team of lobbyists, consultants, and design specialists, Evans went to work assuaging the concerns of environmentalists, neighbors, and the commission.

He hired visual impact consultants to argue that the houses would blend into the hillside with minimal obtrusion. He spent $400,000 on engineering studies to allay fears that the development could cause landslides. He offered up land and $1 million for a public hiking trail. Evans might as well have been pushing a boulder up the Malibu hillside. The agency’s longtime-Executive Director, Peter M. Douglas, issued a forceful rebuke of the plans. "In my 38 years with the commission,” Douglas said, “I have never seen a project as environmentally devastating as this one.” Douglas argued that the five houses were too visible and the mile-long road needed to connect them to the grid would scar the land, on which grew the environmentally protected purple needle grass. But even with the boulder at the bottom of the hill, Evans redoubled his efforts and started pushing again. This time, he launched a multi-front assault. He enlisted the services of ex-Assembly Speaker Fabian Núñez, who now works as a partner at the lobbying firm Mercury, to pass a law that would make it easier to circumvent the Coastal Commission. At the same time, he restarted the permitting process with the commission. Leading the charge: one of California’s most powerful lobbyists, Susan McCabe. While McCabe met with the commissioners, Evans gave a tour of the property to one commissioner and met with another at a stadium before a U2 concert.Then, Evans got an unexpected opening when Douglas, who had presided over the commission for nearly four decades, stepped down for health reasons. While Núñez lost his lobbying battle against environmental groups and regulatory agencies, McCabe’s good-will tour proved more effective. In the newly Douglas-less commission, Evans’s team presented his altered plan—less prominent location; smaller, earth-toned structures; non-reflective glass—and won the unanimous approval of all 12 commissioners. Enter: the Santa Monica Mountains Task Force, a local chapter of the Sierra Club. The environmental advocacy group filed suit against both the California Coastal Commission and Evans in 2016, arguing that the commission had improperly granted Evans’s permit. Led by attorney Dean Wallraff, the Sierra Club claimed that the commission had not sufficiently studied the environmental impact of the project as required by state law. Furthermore, they asserted, the development violated the California Coastal Act of 1976 by disrupting an environmentally sensitive habitat.

The suit was characterized as a long shot at the time—a prognostication that soon came true. The Los Angeles Superior Court ruled against Wallraff and the Sierra Club. But after some consideration, Wallraff appealed the ruling, reiterating the same arguments he had made to the trial court. For that reason, it came as a surprise when the Court of Appeals ruled in favor of the Sierra Club, but not for any of the arguments they put forward. Instead, the court found that the Coastal Commission never had the right to issue the permits in the first place. The millions of dollars and years of lobbying, it turned out, had been spent in the wrong lobbies. “Actually, both sides were surprised that the two main issues in the trial court were not the basis for the Court of Appeals’ ruling,” Wallraff says. “The Coastal Commission no longer had jurisdiction to consider the Edge’s permit application once the county had adopted a local coastal plan in 2014, which transferred jurisdiction of the permits to the county.”Evans appealed the ruling to the state’s highest court, but the State Supreme Court only hears a fraction of the total cases that seek a hearing with them. The contested $100 million hillside mansion compound did not seem to catch their interest. By doing nothing, the court upheld the ruling by the Court of Appeals, ensconcing the Sierra Club’s victory. Wallraff hopes that Sweetwater Mesa might find its way into the possession of a public agency like the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy, “so that it can be part of an ever increasing area of public parkland in the Santa Monica Mountains.”

If Evans plans on a round three, he will now have to seek approval from the Los Angeles County Department of Regional Planning. This means starting over from scratch and performing a full Environmental Impact Report. Then, if the project gets permitted by Regional Planning, it faces a political barrier in the form of County Supervisor Sheila Kuehl, who oversees the district containing Sweetwater. In comments submitted during the trial court proceedings, Kuehl expressed her “deep concern and opposition” to the development, which was “inconsistent” with the county’s environmental goals, she wrote. Then if Evans manages to surmount both the Department of Regional Planning and Supervisor Kuehl, he will still face one last impediment. “If it gets approved, the Sierra Club is very likely to sue again over those approvals,” Wallraff says, “and we’ll be back in the courts for another ten years.”
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 04:00 PM
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That concert (series) is going to be in one of the greatest walletectomies of all time. . . only bested by the F1 race.
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 04:02 PM
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I'm just going to go to the tour show when it arrives in the Bay Area.

Also. . . why watch U1.75? I'd rather watch U2.
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 05:03 PM
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What about UB-40
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Old Mar 24, 2023 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by shareall
OMG my friend plans to go. I’d love to but I just wasted an extra week of vacation because we were stuck in transit. Plus, I don’t wanna jinx it but hopefully there will be a big trip in 2024 so I need to save my pennies.

You mean MomAQue 2024?
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