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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_v._Frederick

Keep an eye on this one... should be interesting.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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I don't care if it rains or freezes
So long as I got my plastic Jesus
Sitting on the dashboard of my car.

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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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it was on NPR this morning. Supreme court eh?
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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Ridiculous...
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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Free speech is great-I have no problem with what this kid is trying to do.





Joseph Frederick is a douchebag.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jedwards' date='Mar 19 2007, 04:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_v._Frederick

Keep an eye on this one... should be interesting.
I have a hard time seeing the supreme court upholding the suspension of the student simply because of the presence of some facets of the Christian right wingers on his side.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by zdave87' date='Mar 19 2007, 06:23 PM
Joseph Frederick is a douchebag.
He might be... probably is. I don't know him as well as you do though.

At any rate I can't even see how this is a school issue. He wasn't on school property. How far do you have to be from the school to be able to think what you want to think?

Principal gave him 5 days suspension for doing something while not on school property and 5 more for not ratting out his friends for doing something while not on school property. Feck her.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jedwards' date='Mar 20 2007, 10:50 AM

At any rate I can't even see how this is a school issue. He wasn't on school property. How far do you have to be from the school to be able to think what you want to think?

Principal gave him 5 days suspension for doing something while not on school property and 5 more for not ratting out his friends for doing something while not on school property. Feck her.
Ninth Court asserted that it was a school event. School rules then apply.

The principal is wrong in having the secondary suspension. If anything resembling common sense is applied here. . .

1. Was this a school function? Yes.

2. Was what he posted a violation of the school's anti-drug policy? Probably (suspecting a Conservative lean), yes. Remember, this was not a classroom debate.

3. Did he cause a major or violent disturbance with the sheet? NO - here's where the principal goes into the wrong, IMHO.

4. Was it wrong to take his sign IMMEDIATELY? YES! He's 18. Welcome to School Governance Gray Areas. She should've requested removal first, then taken it. If she did not ask, she sets herself up for the "gray area."

5. Was it wrong of him not to give up other's names? According to school rules, yes. However, at this point, this is where the principal should've let it go (at least to everything I read about school governance and student management in college).

6. Was it wrong of the principal to dole out the secondary suspension? AFTER HE CITES THOMAS JEFFERSON, YES. I don't know whether this gets mentioned in court record, but if this was proven as a deciding factor in the principal's issuance of the secondary suspension, than his civil liberties are violated.

The principal was a douchebag for not sticking to the single incident. She got her feathers ruffled, and she and the school board, were acting tough only without choosing their target (and handling it) wisely.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by zdave87' date='Mar 19 2007, 06:23 PM
Free speech is great-I have no problem with what this kid is trying to do.





Joseph Frederick is a douchebag.
I agree.
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