chtree deleted all the old posts, including Jonah and the Whale. I'm not doing it again from ###### i n g scratch.

 

....That's f u c k i n g scratch!

 

Really, the old threads were deleted???? Are you sure, George? I thought they'd never do that.

 

I think they will still show up afeter a search. The corner only shows 9 pages of posts, however.

 

Yeah, I really don't think they should delete old threads. That'd be horrendous.

 

 

[QUOTE=Ledfoot,Sep 10 2005, 02:49 PM] For starters, while I know it's against the Code of Corner Conduct to back read, I did read this entire thread with great interest and an open mind. SO.... as not to be called out as right, left, black, white....Martian......whatever... Let me start out with 1) I have always been...and still am...a Republican 2) I am not Bush's biggest fan by any stretch of the imagination. I supported and worked for John McCain in the primary prior to GW's first term...I'm way past being bitter by this point....I never voted for Bush in either election.

Now...First thing is first. There is no way that absolutely 100% of the population of N.O. was going to be evacuated prior to Katrina. It's sad but it's true. There are so many variables beyond the contributing factors of poverty and lack of education that affect this, to list them all (infrastructure, planning, manpower, etc etc) would take waaaay too long to do...even for me For me the idea that "they should have been able to get out" or "we had enough time to get them out" is moot. Even the most coordinated, best-executed evacuation initiative would have people left behind....even with three days.... there are no absolutes.

Which brings me to sunny point #2 for me. This was single-handedly the most poorly executed relief effort in the history of this country and there is absolutely no excuse for it. While we may not have been able to get everyone out before the most dire of circumstances began, we had more than our fair share of time to at least gear up and prepare for the job of making the stay of those unfortunate enough to be trapped in rising waters as short-lived as possible. This wasn't an earthquake that came with no notice. This wasn't a series of tornados that touched down and jumped from place to place like a lottery nobody wants to "win". This wasn't a tsunami moving so swiftly that it crossed an ocean in a matter of hours. This was a storm that had been tracked and observed, weeks in advance. And while the projected path of a hurricane is never 100% accurate, there is no question it was accurate enough that the coastal areas in question should have been ready to go at a moments notice. They may have not been able to stop the game from being played...but they could at least be ready when the hand was dealt and chips fell.

Sunny Point #3.... The advanced notice of danger, inherent within Katrina's circumstances, is a wake up call for this entire country to the fact that we are not safer from terrorist acts now than we were prior to 9/11. We are not prepared should the worst happen and another attack is successfully executed on our soil... and I'm not being case-specific either. This isn't just about Muslim Fundamentalism. If this is what can be expected of our federal government, FEMA, and "Homeland Security" with advanced notice of a natural disaster...what on earth can be expected in the face of a catastrophe, realized without so much as a whisper of warning? Homeland Security, as it stands now, is shooting us in the foot. It

 

^ Yes, well apparently you did break the rules, Jeddy.

Where's that Jonah and the Whale thread (so I can promptly ignore it)..