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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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[QUOTE=F1s2000,Oct 1 2004, 02:01 PM]
[COLOR=blue]"Kerry voted to use military force in Iraq but then voted against the administration's request for $87 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan"

"Kerry Voted For Authorization To Use Force In Iraq".
In the First Dem Debate, Kerry Strongly Supported President
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PeaceLove&S2K,Oct 1 2004, 02:03 PM
The debate has been on since 2000?
No it hasn't. But Kerry's indecisions have been going on longer than that.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly,Oct 1 2004, 02:07 PM
Did you get those off of Rush Limbaugh's site? Or President Bush's?
Neither. Just go to and do a little research for yourself.

And may the best candidate win. Remember guys don't take it personal. We are all Americans. At-least those of us who defend our great Nation.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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I was waiting for that. The lines you posted were pretty much verbatim of the crap that the Bush campaign has been spewing for the last 4 months, that's all.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by F1s2000,Oct 1 2004, 12:06 PM
We need someone that stands his ground as a President. Even thought Bush has his problems. Mainly verbally . I think it wouldn't be in the best interest of the U.S to change President at this time.
If *only* his problems were mainly his speaking skills (Nukular). It wouldn't be hard to support a president who couldn't speak well but led his country capably.

Is the irony lost on everyone? Here's a president who led his country into a war based on (I'm assuming he's not a bald faced liar) erroneous intell (The Iraqis have WMDs) and erroneous assumptions (Iraq leadership is connected with Osama). And now he says he's the only one who can lead the country *out* of the war?
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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Ok so I couldn't watch it cause it was on some time in the veeeeery early morning hours... But at least we got the "highlights" on CNN.

They both don't give me the impression of being capable to lead a country!

Bush seemed very nervous and he looked like one of those angry lil midgets Plus what he was saying sounded like he had reeeeeeeaaaally tried to prepare for the debate. But I think some cow, giving birth on his farm, must have distracted him from preparing.

Kerry really likes using 2 sentences instead of one. And he makes me feel like I had just taken a sleeping pill. Doesn't seem like he has the neccessary power.

But Kerry seemed more confident about what he was saying and he really had some very good points that always knocked Bush out.

At the end I think this is about voting for the lesser evil.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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[QUOTE=F1s2000,Oct 1 2004, 02:01 PM]
[COLOR=blue]"Kerry voted to use military force in Iraq but then voted against the administration's request for $87 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan"

"Kerry Voted For Authorization To Use Force In Iraq".
In the First Dem Debate, Kerry Strongly Supported President
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly,Oct 1 2004, 01:34 PM
Since you're "too busy" to back up allegations:
Point 2:

Authorization to use force and actually using it are two different things. The authorization was also voted on based on administration promises of a thorough strategy including exit strategy, garnering UN and NATO support, and having a strong coalition (Poland doesn't count). None of those happened.
It is also important to note on this point that the authorization to use force came with a speech from Bush himself where he said he didn't intend to use it and certainly wouldn't "without our allies by our side". I heard it.

The speech made it clear that force, if necessary would be managed with the world body and not alone.

The world body did not and does not support this and the US is alone. Alone in the cost. Alone in the risk. Alone in the deaths. That is Bush's war.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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Don't forget Poland, Jed.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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Paaaaaardon ME! ;-)

Any one have numbers on other countries?
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