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Originally Posted by NikePenguin,Sep 26 2005, 09:02 PM
Corporate officer compensation is a big topic of contention. However, shareholders continue to value those services at those levels. It's a market price.
And it's way out of whack here in the states, compared to the rest of the world.
Originally Posted by WestSideBilly,Sep 26 2005, 08:41 PM
At what expense?
She was a failure and got a $21 million severance. What market benefit did she provide to merit that type of pay?
Of course the concept of a severance is complete fuvking bullshit. You're incompetent, you deserve to be working as a fluffer, not a CEO.
She was a failure and got a $21 million severance. What market benefit did she provide to merit that type of pay?Of course the concept of a severance is complete fuvking bullshit. You're incompetent, you deserve to be working as a fluffer, not a CEO.

At HP and Compaq'a shareholders expense. They voted on the merger and took the risk. They were wrong and paid the price. It's their company, non-shareholders can't tell them what to do.
Originally Posted by jasonw,Sep 26 2005, 09:04 PM
That doesn't work too well for "closely" held stocks.
And it's way out of whack here in the states, compared to the rest of the world.
And it's way out of whack here in the states, compared to the rest of the world.
Private companies still have owners.
VC funded companies have to answer to the VC investors.
Originally Posted by jasonw,Sep 26 2005, 09:05 PM
What about your judgement? Is it possible that the market has missed something?
Celebrities have the power of leverage. All those millions of people that watch her tell the networks to pay her so that they can. Advertisers want exposure and will pay for ads during her show. Like it or not, the networks and advertisers value her. Consumers/viewers value the enjoyment they receive from watching her show.
Originally Posted by NikePenguin,Sep 26 2005, 09:12 PM
What do you mean by "closely held stocks"?
Private companies still have owners.
VC funded companies have to answer to the VC investors.
Private companies still have owners.
VC funded companies have to answer to the VC investors.
Originally Posted by NikePenguin,Sep 26 2005, 09:19 PM
Like it or not, the networks and advertisers value her. Consumers/viewers value the enjoyment they receive from watching her show.
We basically have a system of socialism for those at the top and capitalism for those at the bottom. When who you know matters more than what you know, society is dumbed down.
Originally Posted by jasonw,Sep 26 2005, 09:42 PM
Closely held is when the executives(or insiders) own a large chunk of the company(IE: more than 50%). They can vote themselves all the bonuses, stock options, stock grants they want. The mutual funds and everyday share-holders don't have enough of a vote.
Originally Posted by NikePenguin,Sep 26 2005, 10:00 PM
If you owned a business, you could pay yourself whatever you wanted.







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