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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Crap! Look at some of the names she placed ahead of:

Pos. Driver Name Points
1 Dan Wheldon 600
2 Tony Kanaan 508
3 Sam Hornish Jr. 482
4 Dario Franchitti 448
5 Helio Castroneves 418
6 Scott Sharp 412
7 Vitor Meira 387
8 Bryan Herta 378
9 Patrick Carpentier 361
9 Tomas Scheckter 361
11 Alex Barron 313
11 Danica Patrick 313
13 Kosuke Matsuura 308
14 Scott Dixon 301
15 Buddy Rice 277
16 Tomas Enge 237
17 Roger Yasukawa 232
17 Ryan Briscoe 232
17 Ed Carpenter 232
20 A.J. Foyt IV 219
21 Darren Manning 186
22 Jimmy Kite 146
23 Buddy Lazier 140
24 Jaques Lazier 68
25 Jeff Bucknum 63
26 Giorgio Pantano 48
27 Paul Dana 44
28 Sebastien Bourdais 18
29 Adrian Fernandez 16
30 Townsend Bell 15
30 Felipe Giaffone 15
32 Larry Foyt 10
32 Richie Hearn 10
32 Bruno Junqueira 10
32 Marty Roth 10
32 Kenny Brack 10
32 Jeff Ward 10
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jedwards,Oct 11 2005, 03:56 PM
Besides... she was 11th in the series in a field of 37.
Yeah, in a car that a dozen people I know would have ended up in the top 10. The IRL field isn't that deep

However, you are both correct in that hotness (marketing) matters. I learned a long time ago that driving talent does not equal a good ride or steady pay.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Good point about KL. I think DP's hotness will continue to be a factor but KL winning will take the limelight.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SR71BB,Oct 11 2005, 01:02 PM
Yeah, in a car that a dozen people I know would have ended up in the top 10. The IRL field isn't that deep

However, you are both correct in that hotness (marketing) matters. I learned a long time ago that driving talent does not equal a good ride or steady pay.
Well... some of that sounds like excuses. And some doesn't matter. Why aren't a dozen people you know (and hundreds you don't) in that seat? Hotness.

And a decent ability.

Then again when it comes to ability she's no KL. Sad to say... KL needs a stylist.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jedwards,Oct 11 2005, 04:01 PM
Crap! Look at some of the names she placed ahead of:

Pos. Driver Name Points
1 Dan Wheldon 600
2 Tony Kanaan 508
3 Sam Hornish Jr. 482
4 Dario Franchitti 448
5 Helio Castroneves 418
6 Scott Sharp 412
7 Vitor Meira 387
8 Bryan Herta 378
9 Patrick Carpentier 361
9 Tomas Scheckter 361
11 Alex Barron 313
11 Danica Patrick 313
13 Kosuke Matsuura 308
14 Scott Dixon 301
15 Buddy Rice 277
16 Tomas Enge 237
17 Roger Yasukawa 232
17 Ryan Briscoe 232
17 Ed Carpenter 232
20 A.J. Foyt IV 219
21 Darren Manning 186
22 Jimmy Kite 146
23 Buddy Lazier 140
24 Jaques Lazier 68
25 Jeff Bucknum 63
26 Giorgio Pantano 48
27 Paul Dana 44
28 Sebastien Bourdais 18
29 Adrian Fernandez 16
30 Townsend Bell 15
30 Felipe Giaffone 15
32 Larry Foyt 10
32 Richie Hearn 10
32 Bruno Junqueira 10
32 Marty Roth 10
32 Kenny Brack 10
32 Jeff Ward 10
I am - who'd she beat? Bucknum? Puhleez. Rice? Crappy team with crappy management. Roger "I'll take you out, or myself, or both of us" Yasukawa? Tomas "Thanks, but I can find the wall on my own" Enge? Oh, wait, maybe you meant A.J. "I'm here because my dad will spank me if I'm not" Foyt IV?
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jedwards,Oct 11 2005, 04:04 PM
Why aren't a dozen people you know (and hundreds you don't) in that seat? Hotness.

And a decent ability.

No, they all have decent ability (to drive). They do, however, lack the hotness and marketability (or self-marketing skills).

Perfect example... Jimmy Kitchens. Ever heard of him? Nope, didn't think so. Great talent. Huge talent. But, Clifford Allison got the nod because of his ability to use his family connections, Jimmy ran out of money running ARCA, now he's back to working as a mechanic.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jedwards,Oct 11 2005, 04:04 PM
Sad to say... KL needs a stylist.
Sad, but too true.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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[COLOR=red]I don't actually think we disagree that much... we just like to argue. There hasn't been much depth anywhere since Tony George took his ball and went home to start the IRL. It polarized and diluted to the point there's no real depth of talent.

We also agree on KL but there's depth here? No. They're good, enthusiastic up and comers.


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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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I was at the local track a week and a half ago and some 3 guys with damn good skilz in the Asphalt Sprints.

Also some guys in late models who were great. (Right up until they decided to start 'rubbing' in the last few laps... they put themselves both out. Ah well... this is local track )
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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No talent ass clowns.
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