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[QUOTE=zdave]I agree with alot of what Brunt just wrote, especially about the lack of parental involvement.
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the standarized tests/testing bascially end at the 8th grade level?(Not talking about the SAT's or the like)
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the standarized tests/testing bascially end at the 8th grade level?(Not talking about the SAT's or the like)
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Just did a quick search and found this:
Despite having no budget or plan of their own this year for education, Democrat leaders and Washington education lobbyists are attacking President Bush on the issue of education funding. Democrat leaders are charging Republicans with providing "less funding than promised" for the President
Despite having no budget or plan of their own this year for education, Democrat leaders and Washington education lobbyists are attacking President Bush on the issue of education funding. Democrat leaders are charging Republicans with providing "less funding than promised" for the President
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Here is the counterpoint rhetoric from the other side. Please dont think I am siding with the teachers union here! I am just counterpointing rhetoric.
http://www.nea.org/lawsuit/index.html
[QUOTE]tand Up For Children: Pontiac v. Spellings
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NEA, Other Plaintiffs
Appeal Dismissal
NEA and the other plaintiffs have formally appealed a District Court judge's dismissal of the original lawsuit, Pontiac School District, et al., v. Spellings. NEA's complete brief is available here (PDF, 200KB, 56 pages).
Take Action:
Sign Our Petition
Show your support by signing a petition that tells Congress and the Administration to keep their promises and fund our schools.
The No Child Left Behind (NCLB) law says the federal government must pay for the rules and regulations it is imposing on our nation's public schools. But Washington lawmakers haven't done so, creating a $27 billon shortfall that parents have had to cover with their tax money.
A diverse network of schools that are saying "No more" to paying the costs of Washington's regulations teamed up with the NEA to file the first national lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Education on April 20, 2005. With this lawsuit, local communities are simply asking the Bush administration to allow parents to spend hard-earned tax dollars on their children's classrooms -- not bureaucracy, paperwork and testing companies.
The case continues to make its way through the courts. NEA and the other plaintiffs have appealed an earlier decision by District Court Judge Bernard Friedman, who sided with government lawyers in dismissing the case.
Judge Friedman of the United States District Court for the Eastern Court of Michigan on Nov. 23, 2005 granted the government's motion to dismiss Pontiac, et al., v. Spellings. In his ruling, Judge Friedman did reject the government's argument that the plaintiffs lack legal standing to bring the lawsuit. The complete eight-page ruling is available here (PDF, 29KB, 8 pages ).
On March 22, 2006, NEA and the other plaintiffs filed their opening brief (PDF, 200KB, 56 pages ) with the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit asking that the decision of District Court Judge Friedman dismissing the complaint be reversed.
The appeal argues that the district court decision "was both misplaced and unfounded" and cites extensive legislative history to support the plaintiffs' interpretation of Sec. 9527(a), which prohibits unfunded mandates. The Federal government has at least 30 days (from March 22) to file its response. Once that response is filed,
http://www.nea.org/lawsuit/index.html
[QUOTE]tand Up For Children: Pontiac v. Spellings
News & Action
NEA, Other Plaintiffs
Appeal Dismissal
NEA and the other plaintiffs have formally appealed a District Court judge's dismissal of the original lawsuit, Pontiac School District, et al., v. Spellings. NEA's complete brief is available here (PDF, 200KB, 56 pages).
Take Action:
Sign Our Petition
Show your support by signing a petition that tells Congress and the Administration to keep their promises and fund our schools.
The No Child Left Behind (NCLB) law says the federal government must pay for the rules and regulations it is imposing on our nation's public schools. But Washington lawmakers haven't done so, creating a $27 billon shortfall that parents have had to cover with their tax money.
A diverse network of schools that are saying "No more" to paying the costs of Washington's regulations teamed up with the NEA to file the first national lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Education on April 20, 2005. With this lawsuit, local communities are simply asking the Bush administration to allow parents to spend hard-earned tax dollars on their children's classrooms -- not bureaucracy, paperwork and testing companies.
The case continues to make its way through the courts. NEA and the other plaintiffs have appealed an earlier decision by District Court Judge Bernard Friedman, who sided with government lawyers in dismissing the case.
Judge Friedman of the United States District Court for the Eastern Court of Michigan on Nov. 23, 2005 granted the government's motion to dismiss Pontiac, et al., v. Spellings. In his ruling, Judge Friedman did reject the government's argument that the plaintiffs lack legal standing to bring the lawsuit. The complete eight-page ruling is available here (PDF, 29KB, 8 pages ).
On March 22, 2006, NEA and the other plaintiffs filed their opening brief (PDF, 200KB, 56 pages ) with the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit asking that the decision of District Court Judge Friedman dismissing the complaint be reversed.
The appeal argues that the district court decision "was both misplaced and unfounded" and cites extensive legislative history to support the plaintiffs' interpretation of Sec. 9527(a), which prohibits unfunded mandates. The Federal government has at least 30 days (from March 22) to file its response. Once that response is filed,
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A diverse network of schools that are saying "No more" to paying the costs of Washington's regulations teamed up with the NEA to file the first national lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Education on April 20, 2005. With this lawsuit, local communities are simply asking the Bush administration to allow parents to spend hard-earned tax dollars on their children's classrooms -- not bureaucracy, paperwork and testing companies.
You could say the same thing for the top-heavy Teachers unions.
Kinda funny how the union leaders make a hell of alot more than the teachers do.
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In fairness Mikey, NCLB has only been in place for about 6 years.
We've had DECADES of continuing failure without ANYONE doing something different.
Why can't we try this longer? Worse comes to worse, we can go back to the other way.
We've had DECADES of continuing failure without ANYONE doing something different.
Why can't we try this longer? Worse comes to worse, we can go back to the other way.
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Originally Posted by zdave87,Mar 30 2006, 11:43 AM
In fairness Mikey, NCLB has only been in place for about 6 years.
We've had DECADES of continuing failure without ANYONE doing something different.
Why can't we try this longer? Worse comes to worse, we can go back to the other way.
We've had DECADES of continuing failure without ANYONE doing something different.
Why can't we try this longer? Worse comes to worse, we can go back to the other way.
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