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BTW - the alert is level 5 now!We are heading to Mexico on Sunday. Flying into Phoenix then our friends are picking us up and we are driving to Rocky Point - it's on the Sea of Cortez.
I guess there won't be lines at the border!
I'll be carefull and not play with or eat the pigs.
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Originally Posted by Ratgirl,Apr 30 2009, 07:38 AM
BTW - the alert is level 5 now!We are heading to Mexico on Sunday. Flying into Phoenix then our friends are picking us up and we are driving to Rocky Point - it's on the Sea of Cortez.
I guess there won't be lines at the border!
I'll be carefull and not play with or eat the pigs.
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From: stuffed in a box
Originally Posted by Ratgirl,Apr 30 2009, 07:38 AM
BTW - the alert is level 5 now!We are heading to Mexico on Sunday. Flying into Phoenix then our friends are picking us up and we are driving to Rocky Point - it's on the Sea of Cortez.
I guess there won't be lines at the border!
I'll be carefull and not play with or eat the pigs.
I was educated last night that WHO considers this strain highly infectious which is why they are raising the level so fast. better safe than sorry they say.... wear condoms and don't eat the yellow snow....
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and briefly in regards to INTJ's claim, Mexico City actually has a highly developed health care system, and they reacted very fast, which is one action that helps to keep numbers low, keep that in mind. current official numbers:
8 dead (another 16 suspected)
257 confirmed (mexico says they have over 30 in critical condition)
hundreds more uncomfirmed ?? or maybe none eh? who knows
INT: are those numbers big enough to satisfy you? or would you like more people suffering? based on your argument i suspect the latter...
as for your data presented above, only TB is communicable, the others cannot be, or cannot be *easily* passed from person to person, which renders your argument as garbage. you *can't* catch an 'accident' or diabetes from another person. the key identifying factor of an 'epidemic' is that it SPREADS. the ONLY on you listed that is highly infectious is TB and the infection rate is and has been declining which is where you can apply your 'reverse doomsday' clock. It's actually not spreading so you fail there as well.
I say it again, I'll listen to the professionals before I *ever* listen to you. the concern is how fast it's moving, in two weeks it has spread to 11 countries, and that seems to be fast enough for the pros.
in regards to TB, the infection rate is and has been declining which is where you can apply your 'reverse doomsday' clock.
as I said before, my info comes directly from an epidemiologist, one *who is trained in and studies epidemics* not an arm chair opinionist such as yourself. you can continue your arguments, but in this case, you are simply out of your league. accept it. there is a lot to consider here, unchecked swine flu can combine/mutate with other flu, mutate on it's own, create an entirely new virus should it meet up with avian flu which is currently contained to countries with no cases of swine flu... the key here with the "hysteria" is preventing these scenarios, and you can't do that if people aren't informed. make sense yet? or will your know it all attitude prevent you from absorbing any more information?
8 dead (another 16 suspected)
257 confirmed (mexico says they have over 30 in critical condition)
hundreds more uncomfirmed ?? or maybe none eh? who knows
INT: are those numbers big enough to satisfy you? or would you like more people suffering? based on your argument i suspect the latter...
as for your data presented above, only TB is communicable, the others cannot be, or cannot be *easily* passed from person to person, which renders your argument as garbage. you *can't* catch an 'accident' or diabetes from another person. the key identifying factor of an 'epidemic' is that it SPREADS. the ONLY on you listed that is highly infectious is TB and the infection rate is and has been declining which is where you can apply your 'reverse doomsday' clock. It's actually not spreading so you fail there as well.
I say it again, I'll listen to the professionals before I *ever* listen to you. the concern is how fast it's moving, in two weeks it has spread to 11 countries, and that seems to be fast enough for the pros.
in regards to TB, the infection rate is and has been declining which is where you can apply your 'reverse doomsday' clock.
as I said before, my info comes directly from an epidemiologist, one *who is trained in and studies epidemics* not an arm chair opinionist such as yourself. you can continue your arguments, but in this case, you are simply out of your league. accept it. there is a lot to consider here, unchecked swine flu can combine/mutate with other flu, mutate on it's own, create an entirely new virus should it meet up with avian flu which is currently contained to countries with no cases of swine flu... the key here with the "hysteria" is preventing these scenarios, and you can't do that if people aren't informed. make sense yet? or will your know it all attitude prevent you from absorbing any more information?