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oh the importance of marriage, very important. Judaism was founded on the idea that inner strength can overcome the external world. Back to what I said about the creation of man and woman from Adam, man embodies external strengths and woman has inner strength. Man needs woman to be complete in life and to fulfill the commandment to reproduce (this is not just to help fill the planet but to emulate The Creator). Woman has her inherent inner strength to keep her on track, so she does not have to marry to die a complete person.
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Originally posted by The Unabageler
It's a requirement for every Jewish man to marry.
It's a requirement for every Jewish man to marry.
Going from the Old Testament alone, there were many men that are not recorded as being married (Elijah and Elisha, for instance). Is there any case for exemption? We were wondering if Paul (Saul) would have been required to be married in order to be a member of the Sanhedrin. It is not recorded in the New Testament (which I don't believe you recognize as being actual scripture) so we're just trying to consider the possibility.
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qmahmudapex,
I looked through that website and you're right - many of the ideas are the same (or similar).
Reading your statement of doctrine, I came across only two things that I disagree with. I don't want to turn this into a theological debate, just as a "for your information" thing to say on the few things we do differ on (partially or completely).
1. The Trinity: You believe in three persons, I believe in one person manifested in three ways - ie, they are all one. Where one is, they all are.
2. Water baptism and the Lord's supper: I believe that these are both essential to salvation, albeit they alone do not give salvation. Water baptism (by immersion, not sprinkling the head) is a scriptural command as part of the acceptance of salvation (a public confession and pattern of the dying out of the "old" you). Same goes for the Lord's supper AND footwashing - He said (paraphrasing) "Whoever doesn't do this in totality has no part in/of me". I'm sure you know the references. So, we sort of agree there - we agree it's to be done, you just don't ascribe it to influencing salvation (I think that's what it's saying). IE, not doing it won't keep you from going to heaven. Correct me if I'm wrong - I'd be thrilled if we agreed completely.
That's it. I loved this part of your statement of doctrine:
"...Jesus Christ is the Lord and Head of the Church and that every local church has the right, under Christ, to decide and govern its own affairs"
I think that is so rare these days - people are following men instead of God and it's leading them (in my opinion) down the wrong path. Very refreshing to see someone following the scriptural pattern!
I looked through that website and you're right - many of the ideas are the same (or similar).
Reading your statement of doctrine, I came across only two things that I disagree with. I don't want to turn this into a theological debate, just as a "for your information" thing to say on the few things we do differ on (partially or completely).
1. The Trinity: You believe in three persons, I believe in one person manifested in three ways - ie, they are all one. Where one is, they all are.
2. Water baptism and the Lord's supper: I believe that these are both essential to salvation, albeit they alone do not give salvation. Water baptism (by immersion, not sprinkling the head) is a scriptural command as part of the acceptance of salvation (a public confession and pattern of the dying out of the "old" you). Same goes for the Lord's supper AND footwashing - He said (paraphrasing) "Whoever doesn't do this in totality has no part in/of me". I'm sure you know the references. So, we sort of agree there - we agree it's to be done, you just don't ascribe it to influencing salvation (I think that's what it's saying). IE, not doing it won't keep you from going to heaven. Correct me if I'm wrong - I'd be thrilled if we agreed completely.
That's it. I loved this part of your statement of doctrine:
"...Jesus Christ is the Lord and Head of the Church and that every local church has the right, under Christ, to decide and govern its own affairs"
I think that is so rare these days - people are following men instead of God and it's leading them (in my opinion) down the wrong path. Very refreshing to see someone following the scriptural pattern!
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JonBoy,
In regards to large or mega churches, I think they could be successfull in theory only. If there were multiple pastors that had different assignments ie, youth pastor, family pastor, teaching pastor, head or senior pastor, then they could each minister to their respective groups. The proble is each pastor aspires to be the head pastor. Also, these mega churches depend on small group, home based teaching "cells". here is where the problem lies, most people do not want to "bother" with it. So they go get their "dose" of church on Sunday.
I agree with your pastor about preaching the true Word. Those megachurches usually don't talk about sin, hell, repentence, unfaithfullness, and all the other problems the bible talks about. I really believe most people go to church to feel good about themselves, versus being properly fed and enourage about having an actual relationship with Jesus.
What is your position on the rapture?
In regards to large or mega churches, I think they could be successfull in theory only. If there were multiple pastors that had different assignments ie, youth pastor, family pastor, teaching pastor, head or senior pastor, then they could each minister to their respective groups. The proble is each pastor aspires to be the head pastor. Also, these mega churches depend on small group, home based teaching "cells". here is where the problem lies, most people do not want to "bother" with it. So they go get their "dose" of church on Sunday.
I agree with your pastor about preaching the true Word. Those megachurches usually don't talk about sin, hell, repentence, unfaithfullness, and all the other problems the bible talks about. I really believe most people go to church to feel good about themselves, versus being properly fed and enourage about having an actual relationship with Jesus.
What is your position on the rapture?