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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:15 AM
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:18 AM
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Not that I'm for or against it, but making an observation here...

Wasn't teen pregnancy less common decades ago when sex ed really didn't exist in school? Not saying that one influenced the other or anything...
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by problem_child,Sep 5 2008, 11:15 AM




how great is that!!!
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ruexp67,Sep 5 2008, 07:41 AM
I wonder if her personal experience of late will change her mind.
After having a baby with down syndrome, I doubt her daughter getting knocked up will change her mind about anything.


She had a nice low cut shirt on last night... not even remotely subtle.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Pantless,Sep 5 2008, 09:18 AM
Not that I'm for or against it, but making an observation here...

Wasn't teen pregnancy less common decades ago when sex ed really didn't exist in school? Not saying that one influenced the other or anything...
It was less well reported, but the entire country was morally conservative. I don't think it has anything to do with sex ed, as much as it does with the decay of the morality of the average person.

Compare Britney Spears to Joni Mitchell for example.
Compare 90210,One Tree Hill, The OC, etc to The Brady Bunch, or the Waltons.

In the 50's sex was something that was HEAVILY discouraged by family and society before marriage. Now, sex is encouraged before marriage.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:08 AM
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damn....that photo is fake

the real picture is one ugly chic
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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Actually, teen birth rates have been on a somewhat steady decline since as far back as I can find data for (1970). I would have to think the teen pregnancy rate has been fairly steady, with a slow increase in abortions, but that data is mostly nonexistent.

The more telling comparison is to other industrial nations. The US birth rate for teens is more than double the next highest. Whether that's due to better sex ed in other nations, a higher abortion rate, less teenage sexual activity (I doubt this), or something else... I don't know. Our Protestant self-repressed background makes open discussions about sex rather hard.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ruexp67,Sep 5 2008, 10:41 AM
I wonder if her personal experience of late will change her mind.
You mean her pregnant daughter? Oh hell no. She's got her own little piece of evidence to support the fact of how she stands by her pro-life stance - their infant with DS. Look at what a saint she is for giving birth in her 40s, knowing the baby would be born with a chromosomal disorder. But hey, she's privileged, so chances are the little one will have all the best chances at improving his quality of life.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly,Sep 5 2008, 12:29 PM
Actually, teen birth rates have been on a somewhat steady decline since as far back as I can find data for (1970). I would have to think the teen pregnancy rate has been fairly steady, with a slow increase in abortions, but that data is mostly nonexistent.

The more telling comparison is to other industrial nations. The US birth rate for teens is more than double the next highest. Whether that's due to better sex ed in other nations, a higher abortion rate, less teenage sexual activity (I doubt this), or something else... I don't know. Our Protestant self-repressed background makes open discussions about sex rather hard.
I'll trust your stats sources. It's true there was a whole lot less discussion about teen pregnancy decades ago. Nowadays it's not very often you hear about a teen "getting sick," leaving school and never coming back. Or a grandmother passing off her grandchild as her own child. Or women being forced to go to a backalley clinic far from home to get an abortion. There are so many factors, it's hard to know what the full explanation is for differences in birth rates.

I'd also be interested to know about miscarriage rates among teens comparatively over the years and the reasons for them. (For example, are teens getting prenatal care earlier and less likely to engage in risky behaviours? There are all kinds of questions there...)
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly,Sep 5 2008, 08:29 AM
Our Protestant self-repressed background makes open discussions about me rather hard.
I have no difficulty is stating that you failed.
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