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i thought so
anyway, i wonder what the 360 Challenge Stradale could do around the Nordschleife... i bet, with a very skilled driver (200+ laps), it would be well under 8min. without traffic, i'd say 7:50 or faster. whadya think?
GT2 = 7:45
GT3 = 7:52
NSX-R = 7:56
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No, it's not. The Nurburgring F1 track was built in the mid-'80s I believe - throughly modern, state-of-the-art facility. F1 hasn't been to the 'real' Nurburgring (aka Nordschleife or "North Loop") in over 20 years, ever since Niki Lauda died in a horrible car accident there. The Nordschleife, I believe, was built in the late '30s with 2 sections - Sudschleife (South Loop) and the Nordschleife. The Sudschleife has been closed since the '80s because it was too dangerous; there were too many deaths.
Now, the only 'real' Nurburgring you can drive on is the Nordschleife. It's about 14mi each lap (compared to ~2mi for a typical F1 track), and if you count every single kink and bend, it has 176 corners. The track is so big there are actually 2 towns within the track itself, and the track is named according to sections (of about 10-15 turns), rather than each individual turn.
The Nordschleife operates as basically a toll road, for which you can buy single-lap passes, or unlimited year passes, or 30-lap packages, etc. Pretty much any car is allowed on the "toll road," so all the big companies and tuners (German, as well as Japanese and American), test and tune their cars on this track. You know all of those "spy shots" you see of Lambos and AMGs and Ferraris, covered in camouflage and hauling ass around a track? Most of those shots were taken at the Nordschleife.
As far as lap times go, anything under 8min is blisteringly fast. For reference's sake, the S2000 laps at ~8:45. The official outright record was set by Derek Bell in his Porsche 956 prototype car, at 6:28. That's an average speed of roughly 130mph.
So that's the history lesson for the day. And the only reason I know all that is because I did a small report on it for World History in 9th grade.
Now, the only 'real' Nurburgring you can drive on is the Nordschleife. It's about 14mi each lap (compared to ~2mi for a typical F1 track), and if you count every single kink and bend, it has 176 corners. The track is so big there are actually 2 towns within the track itself, and the track is named according to sections (of about 10-15 turns), rather than each individual turn.
The Nordschleife operates as basically a toll road, for which you can buy single-lap passes, or unlimited year passes, or 30-lap packages, etc. Pretty much any car is allowed on the "toll road," so all the big companies and tuners (German, as well as Japanese and American), test and tune their cars on this track. You know all of those "spy shots" you see of Lambos and AMGs and Ferraris, covered in camouflage and hauling ass around a track? Most of those shots were taken at the Nordschleife.
As far as lap times go, anything under 8min is blisteringly fast. For reference's sake, the S2000 laps at ~8:45. The official outright record was set by Derek Bell in his Porsche 956 prototype car, at 6:28. That's an average speed of roughly 130mph.
So that's the history lesson for the day. And the only reason I know all that is because I did a small report on it for World History in 9th grade.
