I don't think having drugs in the trunk had anything to do with his running. For all we know, he might have had a couple of joints and some papers or a pipe. I'd venture a guess that based upon the demographic at the event, he was not the only one. The drug charges appear to be just a tacked on charge, more than likely a misdemeanor. Again, I don't condone it, I believe if you break the law, you need to be prepared to deal with the consequences.

 

I may have heard something wrong then, or someone was joking about it, but I heard 4 lbs of pot. Not a misdemeanor in most states. But if that was incorrect then I stand corrected.

And BTW, don't think I got to meet you this trip, but I like the idea of the vinyl letters on the windshield for the next event, that way you can find folks and say hi.

Take care

Mark

 

The 4 lbs of pot was something done by the injured officer in a previous bust.

... I think...

 

The file photo from a news organization fueled the 4lbs of pot rumor. I don't know for a fact that he was carrying 4lbs of pot or not, but my assumption is that he was not.

In any case, a tradgedy occured. A tradgedy that stemmed from behaviour that is not congruent with most members, as i know it, of this forum. Certainly we drive above the posted speed limit, certainly we take calculated risks when driving spiritedly, but the sequence of bad descisions made by this individual is hardly comprable to breaking a speeding law or two.

It is a blessing that nobody died. It could have been tragic, and as much as i wish that this whole mess would just go away, I feel that maybe some of our members who live on blind invincibility may glean some kind of lesson from this.

We are not impressed by stupid kids running amuck in fast cars endangering innocent people's lives. We are not impressed when you run from the law. We are not impressed when you have a suspended driver's liscense and you choose to race another car. We are not impressed with your decisions.

This guy could be a perfectly nice, intellegent young man. But he made a terrible choices, one compounding the next. I hope that he has found that he made grave errors and learns from them. I do feel safer that he is off the road, and I feel that he should be held responsable for his actions. If that means never being a member of this organization, or never driving again, i support that.

The last thing i want is for our members to think that we approve or turn a blind eye to this kind of behavior. We do not condone it, and we find it offensive. Don't do it.

 

The photo posted in the Mid-A forum was indeed a photo of the injured cop. He is on the left in the photo. The caption listed in that post for the photo was either made up or the local tv web site had it wrong and was since corrected. See, like I said, if we read it somewhere it must be true, right?

I've already discussed this far more than I wanted to but I just felt I needed to -- not to defend or condone, just to clarify and as an attempt to keep a lid on things.

I guess I'm done here. If anyone has anything to discuss with me, you can do it by PM.

By the way, Mid-A folks, who do you think drove your wayward soul home on Saturday night and found his cabin for him after 30 minutes -- that's right, it was one of the a-holes from Ohio.

Y'all take it easy.

Mark

 

Well said, Willie Gee.

 

I like that idea of the vinyl letters to put on our cars

Something 6"-9" across the top of the windshield (near where the rearview mirror sits).



Getting back to the Cincinnati Drama- how do we try and eliminate this type of behaviour from happening again? Do we make WTD/DBR/FC/FWT all invitation only? Would this be something that local CO's have a say in? Should Raul (or any other person who organizes an event have the final say on who attends?

 

Mark, I hope you didn't think, or infer from my comments, that I was calling anyone an a-hole. I think I clearly stated that I respect your crew VERY much.

And we do appreciate the fact that someone took him home, but after he threatened to kill all of us with his Glock 9MM he couldn't find many friends in the Mid-A crew. (FYI, he has appologized for all things stupid, and we are giving him the benifit of the doubt for now, he has to prove his words.)

Mark

 

Thats the problem Go...we are a-holes!
We are the INMATURE A-HOLE ASSOCIATION. I.A.A.
Sometime we'll tell you the story over a brew.
Ray

 

I think that sort of control would be counterproductive - you really would get people there with a chip on their shoulder.

We do have a similar situation in the SCCA - we now have "Solo Trials" events that are faster than your typical autocross, but not full-on track racing. At W'ford Hills, the requirements are that you've had x amount of experience, etc. But for these events, it really is up to the Safety Steward as to who may attend. But that's not on a public road, either.