We haven't shoved this under the rug....

Doesn't matter that he was from Ohio..... its that he was heading to the same place as the rest of us... in the same car as the rest of us....

And like shedrivesit said..... he has screwed up his life royally...

Why do we need to dwell on it?

 

I am in no way condoning this guys behavior.... just the opposite... he will get what he deserves..... but that doesn't mean we should judge, sentence and hang him here!

But I'm sure glad that all of you people who are trashing him has never has done anything wrong....

Lets quit judging people and move on! He screwed up, and we all know it... Move on!!

 

I never said I have never made a mistake. I have never said that I don't speed.

I have said that I have never recieved a DUI, I have never lost my lisence do to a DUI, I have never driven on a suspended lisence, I have never sped while driving on a suspended lisence, I have never run from the cops when I have been spotted speeding, I have never run from the scene of an accident that I had any level of involvement in, I have never done all of this with a stash of weed in the car.

This is not a mistake, this was a long LONG series of bad decisons. He could have made a different decision anywhere along the way and it would have changed the outcome.

 

His lack of making a better decision along the way is what is called a mistake.

 

I don't think a total lack of good judgement is really a mistake. For whatever reason, Gray made a string of very bad choices (driving without a license, then racing the BMW, and on and on).

 

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Maybe a rule could be made that you must have a valid (current) drivers license to attend? It might not stop people that are driving without one from coming, but would send the message that we don't want to be on the same road as them.

 

[QUOTE=ruexp67,May 2 2006, 08:58 AM] How is running from the cops an "unintentional error?"

 

Who thinks running from the cops is an OK thing to do? What planet do people live on that that believe running from the cops is no problem, hence they have a misconception of the truth?

My point, is not not hide behind definitions, but may be a little semantic in nature. When someone makes a "mistake" there is a connotation of "accidental" "unintentional" "good natured belief that what they are doing was right at the time."

If I see your car and decide I like it, and I follow you home. Then wait for you to go to sleep, break into your house, break into your car and steal it, was that a mistake? No, it was 100% intentional.

I don't think I am expressing myself very clearly, and I apologize for that.

What I am getting at is that society at large has gotten so politically correct that nothing is every anyone's fault anymore. "He had a rough childhood, and THAT'S why he did what he did." "He didn't MEAN to do what he did." "It was just a mistake." These types of comments (when applied broadly, not specifically to this case) imply a level of justification, or excuse. This is what bothers me.

Hopefully that is a little more clear, but I can't tell anymore.

 

IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE!

Too many people have the misconception that if they don't "know" its wrong, its somehow ok. It's not!

Too many criminals have the idea that if they don't get caught, its ok. It's not!

Our society, IMHO, confuses judgement with consequinces. This guy is a victim of his own actions. His decisions have consequences - that's not being judgemental. Just because he suffers the results of his actions, doesn't mean we are cruel or unkind in our disdain. It's part of what happens when you make bad choices.