S2k with RDX Engine
Originally Posted by Luder94,Jan 17 2006, 11:49 AM
Let's get the NA K20a or the K20a2 in the bay first.
Originally Posted by kayvan_pour,Jan 17 2006, 01:57 PM
Why would you want the k20 over the f20/f22c in your s2k??? It doesnt make more more power stock or modded.
The only thing left for me on the S2K is to either go F22 swap, ITBs, or low-boost turbo for down low power. ITB's are too finicky and low boost may magnify the weakness in the rear-end. So it's either a F22 swap, nothing at all, or other options.
If a shop like Hybrid-Racing comes through with a wiring harness, motormoutns, and a tranny adapter so that someone like be could swap in a K20a or a K20a2 (or hell, even a K24a-R frankenstein) and use a K-Pro for tuning, I'll be near the front of the line.
Originally Posted by clawhammer,Jan 17 2006, 12:13 PM
The k20 has i-vtec. Some of those engine make 320 bhp NA. It's more tuneable.
Originally Posted by Luder94,Jan 17 2006, 12:24 PM
Because I know what the K20a2 in my Integra is capable of doing and where my limitations of my F20c in my S2000 are.
The only thing left for me on the S2K is to either go F22 swap, ITBs, or low-boost turbo for down low power. ITB's are too finicky and low boost may magnify the weakness in the rear-end. So it's either a F22 swap, nothing at all, or other options.
If a shop like Hybrid-Racing comes through with a wiring harness, motormoutns, and a tranny adapter so that someone like be could swap in a K20a or a K20a2 (or hell, even a K24a-R frankenstein) and use a K-Pro for tuning, I'll be near the front of the line.
The only thing left for me on the S2K is to either go F22 swap, ITBs, or low-boost turbo for down low power. ITB's are too finicky and low boost may magnify the weakness in the rear-end. So it's either a F22 swap, nothing at all, or other options.
If a shop like Hybrid-Racing comes through with a wiring harness, motormoutns, and a tranny adapter so that someone like be could swap in a K20a or a K20a2 (or hell, even a K24a-R frankenstein) and use a K-Pro for tuning, I'll be near the front of the line.
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Originally Posted by kayvan_pour,Jan 17 2006, 02:27 PM
You can put a k20 in your car... Put a nice intake, race header, race exhaust, k-pro/ tuning and then make less power than a stock f20c... You need to remember there is liss drive train loss also for the fwd numbers you see. SO you could spend about 6-8k to make the same power...
1. There are many more K20 blocks available in the US market alone, if one were to blow a motor. ie. Cheaper to replace for a racing team. Honda is releasing more and more cars with the K-motor....this will drive the supply up for a period of time.
2. The K-motor is more easily tuneable for torque and power bands than the F-motor with what's available on the market. With simple ECU tuning, I can move the power on my K20 to suit my needs for certain tracks, drag strips, or efficiency tune for the street (for example, my Integra has consistently been getting 34 mpg on my daily drive to and from work with some simple amateur street tuning using the K-Pro. Mind you, my daily drives aren't granny-type drives...it's all local stop and go 28 miles each way, with some run-ins with local ricers here and there. I still have the maps that I can load up that allowed me to put 226 peak hp to the wheels on a dyno as well.
On my F20, I have the Mugen ECU; a static map. I could go with the AEM EMS, but an amateur like me loses the flexibility the K-Pro gives.
3. Aftermarket support for the K-motor is already large. It's growing by leaps and bounds. Again, this affects pricing as well. More available mods from more market competitors means better aftermarket support at more reasonable prices.
4. I'm sure that even with the extra drivetrain loss, the K-motor could show more power gains than the F-motor once in the engine bay of an S2000. For more info on this, search for "K20" and "ultimate lurker". I'll take Shawn Church's R&D and findings as gold, personally.







