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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Default Groupbuy Forum is down or not working properly

the post stay in the same pages since yesterday
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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when i reply to my groupbuy post, my post stays in the same page of the groupbuy forum. in my case, it stay in the last page.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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Its a conspiracy Sam..
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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I thought I was the only one . . . .

The page is being sorted by date of original thread instead of by most recent post.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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Is there a purpose for the new method of sorting being used in just the group buy section? Perhaps to encourage vendors to make more new group buy threads?

It is a bit annoying trying to track an older thread. I realize you can re sort the posts with the sort function at the bottom but if you go to one thread and then want to go back the page times out and you have to do it all over again.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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It has become so cluttered that I will no longer post.

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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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Yes, as you have noticed the topics are sorted (by default) by the date they were started. That means the new group buys are at the front and older ones are behind it in chronological order. The reasoning is very simple:

1) Group buys are always in the same place relative to the others. Whe you see a group buy posted you know how to find it again because it hasn't moved.

2) Old group buys can't be "whored to the top". Bumping GBs has no effect and there is no point in sponsors attempting to flood the front page with their group buys by simply bumping them.

3) Some sponsors were abusing the system and bumping all of their past group buy topics to the front of topic list causing other to do the same adnausium.

If you want to change the list ordering to by last post then change the sorting options at the bottom of the listing page.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DerrS2K,Aug 8 2006, 06:16 PM
Is there a purpose for the new method of sorting being used in just the group buy section? Perhaps to encourage vendors to make more new group buy threads?

It is a bit annoying trying to track an older thread. I realize you can re sort the posts with the sort function at the bottom but if you go to one thread and then want to go back the page times out and you have to do it all over again.
As stated above, finding group buys is easier not harder with this system because they don't move. It will always appear in the same place relative to the ones around it. You can't possibly convince me that it's easier to locate a specific GB topic in a list that is displayed in essentially random order.

Yes, sponsors will need to post new group buys regularly if they wish to show up on the front page. Creating one GB topic and simply bumping it daily is not going to cut it anymore. Group buys are only for 30 days anyway and then they lapse into history. I realize sponsors use the GB topics to provide order status well beyond that so they aren't closed but the sponsors don't close them either when they are no longer current and so GBs from 2002 bob to the top often as people ask if they can still get in on the deal.

The sponsors MUST subscribe to their GB topics so they know when people respond. They cannot rely on noticing them pop up to the top. The option to subscribe is given when you post and at any other time later. Use MyS2K to monitor the activity of your subscribed topics.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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How about before you change something that effects the sponsors like you talk to the sponors first? The site has generally gotten less user freindly with each and every change.version.

The general issue in the forum is that is unmoderated and has become full of general product post instead of GBs.

Here are some stats of the number of post, per vendor. (Highest to lowest)
Invision Performance=30
EvasiveMotorsports=25
E-Autosports=25
Non-stop Motorsports=18
Bulletproof Automotive=11
S2X=9
ImportTuningGarage=9
Spugen=8
Evolution=6
Motorklasse=5
Gruppe-S=5
Rick's=3
HTG=3
Kinetic Autosports=3
OmnipowerUSA=2
Nopi=2
Inline Pro=1
Automotive Speed=1
AJ Racing=1
GFL=1
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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A GB is what exactly? You answer that question and then maybe we can come to some arrangement for how to "moderate" them. Approximately 0% of GBs are in fact GBs at all.

I'll tell you what a GB is, it's a volume discount on something that you get by having you and your buddies go in together on. By having many people purchase a single item at the same time on the same order you can take advantage of volume price breaks. Since you are keen on counting, how many of the GBs posted are actually GBs?

The fact is that GBs (as such they are) are ads for pretty much whatever the advertiser wants to advertise. The forum has always been full of general product posts regardless of what you call them. If there is a problem it is that sponsorship doesn't impose any hard limit on the number of ads a sponsor can post or how often they can post them.

The system is based on everyone taking what they need but no more. The sponsors are required to share the resource but it only takes one to kill the host. The popular vernacular around here is "whoring". As I describe above. It doesn't seem to matter what limits you put on people they will attempt to consume everything in sight. Look at the forum now and you'll see that it's no better than it was. You throw up obsticles and people will just go around them.
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