How many miles would you accept on a New S2000?
Hi there,
I put down a deposit today to have a local dealer locate the color combination I want (the ever popular Silverstone/Black).
They indicated they'll have to get the car from out of state (I know of one car at a dealership in state, but perhaps they aren't willing to trade?). What right, other than just refusing to buy the car and trying elsewhere, do I have to request that the car is brought by flatbed, rather than driven? At what point is a New Car not "new" anymore? I'm also a little concerned about the typical bugs and rock chips that come with interstate travel at speed...
Reason I picked this dealer, they share ownership with the Acura dealer from whom we purchased my wife's RDX and our salesman there (great guy, let me know if you need a referral
) put in a call to the owner, which got back to the internet saleslady I'm dealing with. They're offering me a good value for my trade by finding a specific buyer, which works out to nearly $2k over other dealers using the auction pricing, though I did have to leave the dealership... they called back having found this "buyer" apparently...
They also came close to matching the best pricing I've seen posted here. We ended up at basically invoice (I'm using Edmunds, is there something better?) less holdback. Are the dealers offering to sell for $29,9 losing money, or are there other incentives of which I'm unaware?
Thanks for your help and advice,
Phil
I put down a deposit today to have a local dealer locate the color combination I want (the ever popular Silverstone/Black).
They indicated they'll have to get the car from out of state (I know of one car at a dealership in state, but perhaps they aren't willing to trade?). What right, other than just refusing to buy the car and trying elsewhere, do I have to request that the car is brought by flatbed, rather than driven? At what point is a New Car not "new" anymore? I'm also a little concerned about the typical bugs and rock chips that come with interstate travel at speed...
Reason I picked this dealer, they share ownership with the Acura dealer from whom we purchased my wife's RDX and our salesman there (great guy, let me know if you need a referral
) put in a call to the owner, which got back to the internet saleslady I'm dealing with. They're offering me a good value for my trade by finding a specific buyer, which works out to nearly $2k over other dealers using the auction pricing, though I did have to leave the dealership... they called back having found this "buyer" apparently... They also came close to matching the best pricing I've seen posted here. We ended up at basically invoice (I'm using Edmunds, is there something better?) less holdback. Are the dealers offering to sell for $29,9 losing money, or are there other incentives of which I'm unaware?
Thanks for your help and advice,
Phil
Very rarely will the cars be driven from dealership to dealership, especially if it is located in another state. It will probably come on a transporter with several other cars. I wouldn't take much more than 15 miles and still call it new.
maybe you can convince them to sell it to you used with the CPO extended warranty.
You will always have to put a dollar value on anything you buy. A new car in which you will be registered as the original owner is probably worth a little more than a used car with the same relative mileage.
An example would be in the fact that the mileage is totally discounted for the original buyer and would not be if there where a previous owner.
I think the best decription of a car that has a few hundred miles on it and never regestered would be a new "demo".
The value now becomes a question of "Demo vs. New"
Determine what you can actually buy "New" and "Used" if possible and the fair price wpuld be somewhere in the middle.
An easier way would be to price the "demo" according to mileage-i.e. a car with 500mi. may be fairly discounted a $2 per mile turning a $30k car into a $29k car.
This is still very subjective though. Would you actually price a car with only 100mi.
at $200 less than new? I wouldn't and don't think many people would.
I think your negotiation should start with a minimum of $1,000 discount in mind and of course more if possible.
In the end, try to avoid a "fair" deal and go for a good, very good or excellent deal.
An example would be in the fact that the mileage is totally discounted for the original buyer and would not be if there where a previous owner.
I think the best decription of a car that has a few hundred miles on it and never regestered would be a new "demo".
The value now becomes a question of "Demo vs. New"
Determine what you can actually buy "New" and "Used" if possible and the fair price wpuld be somewhere in the middle.
An easier way would be to price the "demo" according to mileage-i.e. a car with 500mi. may be fairly discounted a $2 per mile turning a $30k car into a $29k car.
This is still very subjective though. Would you actually price a car with only 100mi.
at $200 less than new? I wouldn't and don't think many people would.
I think your negotiation should start with a minimum of $1,000 discount in mind and of course more if possible.
In the end, try to avoid a "fair" deal and go for a good, very good or excellent deal.
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It totally depends on price.
"New" is basically defined as the start of the warrantee (in my opinion), so yeah the dealer can sell you a "new" car with a couple of hundred miles on it as long as you have full warrantee. Anything more than 20 miles on odo should have a reduced price (in my opionion)
"New" is basically defined as the start of the warrantee (in my opinion), so yeah the dealer can sell you a "new" car with a couple of hundred miles on it as long as you have full warrantee. Anything more than 20 miles on odo should have a reduced price (in my opionion)
I ordered mine from the factory and had to wait 6 weeks. I got it with 6 miles on it because the fuel station was 3 miles away from the dealership and I received the car with a full tank.
That being said, you could always get the car and drive it back yourself that way you know it was broken in properly. Could make for a meaningful first drive.
That being said, you could always get the car and drive it back yourself that way you know it was broken in properly. Could make for a meaningful first drive.







