which year is the best?
Originally Posted by Chazmo,Aug 4 2006, 07:21 PM
^ Huh? What do you mean, Yf?
I want to concentrate on all the idiots who do not even see me (driving the S reminds me of my motorcycle days) or do see me and do not give a f*** before they cut me off. More low end torque means more flexibility which means less attention to the car and more attention to the road on the daily drive.
Now the backroads, the mountains, or an autocross are an entirely different matter. That's when the great gearbox and 9k are very attractive.
So, back to my conclusion, the AP2 is a better (less demanding) daily drive. This is purely a subjective rather than objective (impossible when discussing the S) point of view.
Originally Posted by Chazmo,Aug 4 2006, 10:26 PM
I'd say that the S isn't particularly enjoyable in traffic, regardless of the year.
I would have to agree that older S's do not like to be traffic but than again what car if any likes to be in traffic. The extra downshifting really only takes a second of two and you can still pay attention to all the ass clowns around you. As for the o4's and up looking better I like the rear true but the front I'm half and half on but you can always have the best of both worlds. Do a ap2 conversion on a ap1 and if you really want lots of low end torque turbo it
. Later.
Mike.
. Later.Mike.
Originally Posted by s2000 x,Aug 6 2006, 12:16 PM
I would have to agree that older S's do not like to be traffic but than again what car if any likes to be in traffic. The extra downshifting really only takes a second of two and you can still pay attention to all the ass clowns around you. As for the o4's and up looking better I like the rear true but the front I'm half and half on but you can always have the best of both worlds. Do a ap2 conversion on a ap1 and if you really want lots of low end torque turbo it
. Later.
Mike.
. Later.Mike.
That's all. I agree... Saying a car likes traffic is sort of meaningless. But, with creature comforts, some cars are way more enjoyable to suffer traffic in than others.
That's all. I agree... Saying a car likes traffic is sort of meaningless. But, with creature comforts, some cars are way more enjoyable to suffer traffic in than other
Don't spend all your money on a new one...Save some $ for some go faster parts. I bought a 2000 Berlina only because it had 8,500mi on it..(MINT) wanted a newer one for things listed above, however, I wasn't going to pass it up. Just find a clean one!!! Best of luck.
yeah I like the body styling on the AP1s much better along with the motor setup - i like the suspension as well but snap oversteer does suck at times, eventually you learn to compensate for it though. I like the interior of the AP2s. I wish teh AP1s had the 17" wheels but with the AP1 5 spoke style.







