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Old May 5, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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very interested in getting a clutch type lsd, but was wondering the advantages in a 1.5 or a 2 way. the cusco website makes it sound like the 2 way is for drifting, and some reviews ive heard say that the 1.5 doesnt really do that much when your not on the gas. whats true and whats bs? and whats the difference between the mz and the rs? also, are there any modifications needed to swap out lsd, or can one go out the another go in? all i really want is something that will keep sticking if i lift up a tire, which happens alot on the unevenly paved twisties in my area. thanks doods.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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if your not a serious track junky don't even bother getting an aftermarket diff and blowing $1200.....and if for some reason you do.....don't get a Cusco....they are junk.....the mechanical clutch types are extremely noisy and you will not be happy with it.....they come set with 100% lockup under acceleration out of the box and need to be disassembled and the plates flipped around to take some of the lockup out to in my opinion about 50% to slip the inside wheel for the track.

If your a drifter then you can leave it alone....but remember.....under any throttle the rear wheels will try to lock together which is perfect for drift cars.....that is why they are a popular choice.

as far as the 1.5 way and 2 way......that only has to do with braking.......the 1.5 ways are 50% lockup under brakeing which is perfect for street tires

the 2 way is 100% lockup under brakeing.....you better be ready when you downshift that at 8-9k......its going to be dragging the rear end HARD!!! I would only have slicks on for this and the rear end really wants to dance and come around on you...so its mainly a full race setup.

the only and best diff i would buy is the ATS Carbon on Carbon diffs.....they are more expensive buy worth every penny.....very quiet with the new carbon plates and you don't have to disassemble them.....they are made different....leave them alone and just install them with 85w90 diff oil......you will have to change the oil every 2k miles with any aftermarket diff.....so that is not fun....very messy!! I would suggest leave the stocker alone and just enjoy the S2k. They are mainly for hardcore track guys and drifters. Hope this helps alittle.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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I Run the 1.5Way Carbon LSD from ATS. Worth every penny.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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What kind of diff oil are you running in your 1.5 way ATS??
and how much are you changeing it??

also what is your favorite aspect of your 1.5 way diff?? i just installed my ATS carbon 2-way after i rode in one at the track and had to buy it.

i should of done my research before i bought the cusco 1.5 way i used to run....ATS carbon diffs are definitely the best going right now
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Old May 6, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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they actually use the 1.5 way for drifting so i say that is the one to go with. 2 way is kinda overkill for what you are doing
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Old May 8, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/tech/kaaztorsen.htm

"as soon as you get one wheel off the ground the Torsen becomes an open differential, in order for it to work both wheels must have complete contact with the ground."

this is my main concern, because it happens to me often. i dont really care about noise or anything else, my only concern is grip.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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Get a stiffer front sway bar or drop the rear sway bar to keep the the back wheels on the ground. The problem isn't the diff, it's the fact that your tires are generating enough grip where the inside wheel is lifting off the ground. Search the R&C forum, it's a common problem.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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its partially that but also i rail on some pretty uneven pavement and a wheel on the front and back end lose contact with the ground. if i lived in a more suburban area this wouldnt matter to me at all and id just stick with the torsen, but where i live its very rural and bumpy. anyone that went on the deluz run can back me up on that haha.
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