ITBs and the S2000
Originally Posted by wildcardtrd,Jan 23 2007, 02:22 PM
I would like to add a disclaimer to those of you considering ITB's...
...Do so at your own risk.
...Do so at your own risk.
See, thats the kind of advice I was looking for, and the exact reason I opened the thread! Many thanks wildcardtrd!
There is a company near me that will do the work, but even they acknowledged it doesn't come cheap! I thought about doing it myself, but I don't have the support should something go wrong... back to researching... maybe even night school!
I have a set of 50mm TWMs I am selling with carbon horns. They include plug and play 550cc injectors and the lower coolant pipe ready to bolt on. Just get engine management and plumb your fuel return/send and you are ready to tune.
Originally Posted by MINES13,Jan 24 2007, 05:06 PM
I have a set of 50mm TWMs I am selling with carbon horns. They include plug and play 550cc injectors and the lower coolant pipe ready to bolt on. Just get engine management and plumb your fuel return/send and you are ready to tune.
The FPR thats on my TWM that came with it on the fuel rail sucks. Its not a vaccuum type and doesnt feed my engine enough fuel during heavy launch causin major bogging.
I'm going this route too with a few reasons.
One reason being that I have Volk and Wildcard near me if I run into any problems.
2nd reason being is that I'll be going into more road racing courses and going turbo wouldn't be reliable anymore. I want to keep that I can go to like 200k miles without any problems. So keeping it NA is the best thing for me.
3rd, I can't keep my car down for a while since i'm still in school. If something really breaks if I went FI route. Since I've already had a turbo car I know the problems that you will and can go through. I know its not certain i'll get problems if i go turbo, but the risk are still there.
4th, that ****ing sound... good, its a freakin badass sound lol.
One question... what ITB's will you guys go with? the TWM's or custom? I'm leaning more towards TWM's... Volk, do you have any pictures of it out of the box?
One reason being that I have Volk and Wildcard near me if I run into any problems.
2nd reason being is that I'll be going into more road racing courses and going turbo wouldn't be reliable anymore. I want to keep that I can go to like 200k miles without any problems. So keeping it NA is the best thing for me.
3rd, I can't keep my car down for a while since i'm still in school. If something really breaks if I went FI route. Since I've already had a turbo car I know the problems that you will and can go through. I know its not certain i'll get problems if i go turbo, but the risk are still there.
4th, that ****ing sound... good, its a freakin badass sound lol.
One question... what ITB's will you guys go with? the TWM's or custom? I'm leaning more towards TWM's... Volk, do you have any pictures of it out of the box?
Your major ITB companies are TWM, Toda, Tracy Sports, Jenvey, and Hayward. TWM's are unique in that they manifold is all one piece, and the throttle plates rotate about a vertical axis, with the throttle linkage being attached under the manifold. Since TWM's are all one piece, should something break, you'd have to replace the entire manifold. Jenvey and Hayward are virtually identical. They are comprised of seperate components...A base manifold that attaches to the head, followed by 4 seperate throttle bodies, of which you can order any size from 45mm to 52mm. The throttles in these kits rotate about a horizontal axis, and are connected in series, each individually adjustable, with the main throttle linkage independant of location...i.e. you can locate it anywhere you want. The Jenvey and Hayward kits allow much, much more fine tuning via allen set screws on each throttle body, allowing you to sync the plates much easier, and set your hard idle easier. The Toda and Tracy Sports kits are very nice indeed, and similar in construction to the Jenvey and Hayward kits, in that each piece is seperate. All ITB kits allow you to run whatever size air horns you'd like, but Jenvey and Hayward offer more choices than the others. If I could have gotten any kit on the market, price no issue, I'd have gotten Toda's....but I couldn't cough up the $3600 for the kit when the group buy was out. The Jenvey's I have are a very, very nice piece, and I am very happy with my purchase.
On a special note, some of you probably read Sport Compact Car magazine. In the January issue, they pimp the Fuji ITB's in their product reviews for the S2000. DO NOT BUY FROM FUJI. They ripped Roger (VolkGT-N) off BIG TIME, left him with no manifold, no injectors, nothing, just a block with 4 red rags stuffed in the intake ports and a big #### you for his time.
On a special note, some of you probably read Sport Compact Car magazine. In the January issue, they pimp the Fuji ITB's in their product reviews for the S2000. DO NOT BUY FROM FUJI. They ripped Roger (VolkGT-N) off BIG TIME, left him with no manifold, no injectors, nothing, just a block with 4 red rags stuffed in the intake ports and a big #### you for his time.






