My key point is that when designing a beefy Brake system, the most important factor for reducing stopping distances is matching pad material with tire compound. Most BBK's offered to the public offer the same stopping distance as OEM (they come with street pads because they are used on the street with street tires,.... for proof look at any stock braked cars comparison of stopping distance with the Brembo GT kit (Brembo is the biggest name in braking.) but will offer more consistent stopping over repeated stops due to the added ventilation and cooling. I think the Spoon calipers are a decent design because they use stock S2000 sized pads, aren't very heavy, give better brake modulation, forged for added strenght, and most importantly, painted a trick JDM blue.

Endless is an awesome brake manufacture as well, their street kits work great on street and track. A solid purchase, but to me, compared to Stoptechs, a bit pricey. In my opinion, StopTech is the best budget buy for Brakes out there. They offer great customer support and their product is very comparable to many of the $3500 kits out there.

The best name if braking is Brembo, they do many highend OEM applications as well as many Race teams. If you can get your hands on a set of their Race BBK's I think you'll agree they are the best.

If I had a lot of money to spend, I'd buy a ceramic and Titanium "race" BBK from Brembo.

 

http://stoptech.com/proven_technology/test_wins.shtml

Straight from Stoptech. Offered to the public and as you said, "one of the best kits for the money", which I agree on.

Fact is, a good quality properly designed BBK will make your car stop faster.

 

Yes, with an equal R compound tire.. The key to stopping is brakes WITH a very good tire.. Both go in hand.

 

No they don't. They only make them in red colour. The pads that J's Racing used with their calipers are Seido-ya and I have been using them for the entire 2005 street/track and imo, they are better than Endless CCR cuz the Seido-ya has less squeek, duct and stopping power.

 

also fact is too much braking power up front w/o complimenting the rear brakes will result in poor brake balance and piss poor track results It's all about balance.

 

Yes that is very true also, that is why I said a properly designed system. If it is properly designed it will be balanced.

 

You're still missing my point, when they did those stop tests where the Stop Tech kit out braked OEM, they were using the exact same pads and tires on the BBK and the OEM kit right? I don' think so, I believe the StopTech kit comes with Axxis street performance pads. I did not read through any of the link you posted, so if they did use the same pads and tires (what matters most when shortening stopping distances) then I'd say the StopTech kit is the shit (which I already feel regardless). And yes sometimes with the same pads and tires, a good BBK will allow slightly shorter stopping distances but that is more because of better brake modulation from having better calipers than actual braking force from the BBK.

I'm sure some Brembo or Alcon BBKs' will reduce stopping distances caused by awesome engineering and design, but my point is, on most BBK's, pad material and tire compound are the biggest factors, not the size of rotor and caliper.

 

[QUOTE=Highrpmek,Dec 26 2005, 04:34 PM] You're still missing my point, when they did those stop tests where the Stop Tech kit out braked OEM, they were using the exact same pads and tires on the BBK and the OEM kit right?

 

It should be noted that about 2 years ago most of the time attack S2000's in Japan were running the stock calipers with a good set of brake pads and rotors. Just a personal thought but while some of these big brake kits offer advantages over stock, I would spend my money in other places before going to a big brake kit. I think the stock calipers with a good set of pads (Top Secret Super Street pads hint hint) and something like Endless or Brembo slotted rotors is a better bang for buck setup and most will not need anything more than that.

 

While this is true, most of the above kits were still in production and not available to the general public here or Japan, thus the OEM calipers and racepads.. I remember asking Endless Japan that question in 2001..