Not trashing you Rude, just trying to gather your experience.

 

[QUOTE=OversteerFTW,Dec 19 2008, 08:55 AM]Not trashing you Rude, just trying to gather your experience.

 

after some new rear tires too lol. but i hope it will all come together soon. just waiting on parts.

 

I've had this for years and I feel it has made a difference. It locks the front and rear subframes together to make the car more solid. dave22 has also noticed a difference with these bars.

 

I've had the Cusco front tower, lower front brace, floor brace/rails, and a Spoon lower rear brace for about a year. They were installed all at the same time (and came with all mounting hardware). I don't have any hard data (torsional rigidity, etc.) to provide but they did make a significant subjective difference. Specifically, high-speed turn in was much improved although they four-wheel re-alignment may have contributed. I added some negative camber to the rear wheels. Going over inclines at an angle (e.g., ramps & driveways) yielded less body flex as observed from watching the hood and fender gaps. I know theses are totally subjective, but those are my experiences. Later (about six months ago), I upgraded the sway bars and shocks to the CR components from the Hardtopguy. Again on a subjective note, when directly comparing a stock CR to mine over the same course, my car is much better handling and that without the stickier/wider CR tires. So, all-in-all, I'd say the front upper tower is mostly for looks, or as cleverly said a nice place to lean on. The Spoon lower brace is not much better than the stock piece. The frame rails are worth the price and combined with the stiffer sway bars and great combination. If you're ever in Blacksburg, let me know and you can check em out!

 

I've been in his car (although awhile ago) with this stuff equipped and it made a big difference. Getting out of my s2k and in to his was a whole different feel. So much that I actually had to ask him what he did to the car.

 

I have been looking in to doing this as well.

 

Thanks for the complement Mike.

As for everyone who's thinking about the bars, they are one of the few parts that I got brand new. I even ended up paying close to full price for them.

 

i just put on the cusco sway bars and i felt a differences

 

u want some real difference in chassis stiffness foam up the frame. that shit was crazy on my ae86 and its on the top mods that made a difference on my car.