Official Mid-Atlantic CO Nomination Thread
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Originally Posted by O-turn,Dec 18 2007, 02:03 PM
Jeff is still close enough to the burg that their members can travel 20-30 mins to a meet IMO.
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Agreed, Skip... I chose the wrong moniker. Most of the folks that live in Fairfax County aren't active outside of the online message boards. I continue to believe, however, that they would be if a dedicated CO operated in that area.
Perhaps I am guilty of the same as you; wishing to bring back something we remember fondly. All of my first meets (where I met nearly everyone I am close to now) were in Fairfax County. I'd like to see that come back and I don't see the current leadership making that happen.
I hope this makes my point a bit clearer. I apologize if I have offended anyone or spread out the debate beyond its relevancy. I did not intend to do so. I just want more meets in Fairfax County. That is all...
Perhaps I am guilty of the same as you; wishing to bring back something we remember fondly. All of my first meets (where I met nearly everyone I am close to now) were in Fairfax County. I'd like to see that come back and I don't see the current leadership making that happen.
I hope this makes my point a bit clearer. I apologize if I have offended anyone or spread out the debate beyond its relevancy. I did not intend to do so. I just want more meets in Fairfax County. That is all...
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Originally Posted by O-turn,Dec 18 2007, 02:03 PM
Im well aware of the areas, however things change. You have not been here for awhile and the area has changed, not much is happening in the NOVA area just like nothing happened in B-more when you were CO of B-more. I tried to help out by organizing things here then. Bill is a busy person and I spoke to him before posting this thread and he is on board with this.
The Richmond area has dwindled to a standstill, its up to the members to bring it back as we did here in Baltimore when it came to a hault. When the area is on its feet, someone can move south and manage the members, but why put someone in charge of noone? Id rather the populated area have someone to keep its interest. Jeff is still close enough to the burg that their members can travel 20-30 mins to a meet IMO.
The Richmond area has dwindled to a standstill, its up to the members to bring it back as we did here in Baltimore when it came to a hault. When the area is on its feet, someone can move south and manage the members, but why put someone in charge of noone? Id rather the populated area have someone to keep its interest. Jeff is still close enough to the burg that their members can travel 20-30 mins to a meet IMO.
Now that that has been cleared, here are my thoughts on things. I'm not here to bash anyone, nor am I trying to stir up any type of animosity. However, even though I've been gone all year, from what I've seen, there hasn't hardly been any meets that were S2000 related all year. I've seen one mod day and Fall Colors by Skip. Other than that, there have been plenty of happy hours but nothing related to the car that brought us all together.
I think the title of CO is someone that is going to bring EVERYONE together while incorporating the car that got us together, the S2000. New people that come to s2ki are not going to go to a party gathering if they dont know anyone. But if you had more S2000 related events, then more would come out to learn about the car, not to mention get to meet other members. No one wants to come to a gathering of people that have known each other for years and be the lone sheep out, and I think that's what happy hours do to them. As opposed to having more mod days, wash/wax meets, or just anything S2000 related, more folks are inclined to come out and meet new people because now there is a common theme that brought everyone together.
Chad, Tom, and I had events where we joined up with each other's region so that you all could meet each other. From Hampton Roads, folks came up here to meet us, and we came down to HR from the DC Area to meet up with them. Being CO is about organizing events to keep this place active and together.
Bill aka bighead is a big gear head and is more than capable of organizing events where folks can work on their car or come to learn about the car. However, there hasnt been any organized meets for this. Sure there have been "hey I'm changing brakes this weekend" threads, but those arent really organized to bring new members in to learn and to meet other members.
Brian aka O-turn has assembled decent meets in the upper Maryland side.
Skip did the Fall Colors which basically put Mid-A back on the map of s2ki by bring people from all over to this area, not to mention a lot of old memebers back from the brink of extinction.
Chad had the dinner meets in Hampton Roads.
So, after all the crap I wrote, I basically think that the new CO needs to be in a region that is hard to bring in new members, while working closely with the current ones to organize meets and events to bring it all together. Seeing that we have more than enough CO's it should be easy to bring everyone from all area's of Mid-A together with no sweat if someone wants to put in the time for it.
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Originally Posted by FF2Skip,Dec 18 2007, 02:10 PM
revive a forgotten region? 
I understand we have a great set of OG's who founded and made this community what it is, now my job is to create a new set of OG's. Those who can tell the same stories as you guys tell, I can't just do everything as it was done then, because they have all moved on. There is a new base here now and I was put in charge to do whats best for the community, and Im doing so to the best of my ability. If you feel Im not doing so then I'll gladly step aside because I want nothing more than to have this community prosper and be what it was and what it is today!
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Originally Posted by Black Nugget,Dec 18 2007, 02:10 PM
The Mid-Atlantic Community always has and always will be divided into three sections - Maryland, Northern Virginia / DC Metro, and Southern Virginia. If you are unaware of this, you really need to pay attention to the general layout that was given many years before each of the existing organizers even joined the forums : click here for details.
For 2006 the very active Community Organizers for the Mid-Atlantic Region were Peter (4theheckof_it) for Maryland, Tom (nandska) in Northern Virginia / DC Metro, and myself in Southern Virginia.
Due to his very hectic work schedule and personal life, Tom decided that it would be best to step down. Instead of replacing him, we decided that Peter and I could handle things solo. In my opinion, we did a very good job. Peter organized several very large monthly meets, including his infamous Wash & Wax Meets. I did the same, through my Hampton Roads Dinner Meets which had an average attendance over 15 members.
Once Peter was stationed out of the country I had to make a decision. He asked me simply to hire a temporary replacement for his section, however due to a simple misunderstanding the Mid-Atlantic Community was in search of a new group of Community Organizers.
Upon several nominations, we decided that Brian (O-Turn) would lead our Maryland area, Bill (bighead) would lead our Northern Virginia / DC Metro area, and I would personally lead our Southern Virginia Area.
The Community did have quite a gap, however between the Williamsburg to Fredricksburg area there is very little active members for the S2Ki Community. The decision to ask Skip to return as a Community Organizer was done by a few of the tenured community members. This was not only to fill in the gap between the burg to burg region, however also for a few other regions.
If you look at the existing community organizers, including myself you will notice that most of us are in our Mid-20's. While the community is getting younger, there are still several older members who would like to be active. Skip is a very mature person with a great deal on morals, his personality would truly attract not only the older yet also the younger audience. As well, over the past couple of years our more tenured Mid-Atlantic Veterans have fallen off. The idea was to have Skip return, hopefully gathering more interest from our 5+ Star members and have them become active again.
Skip's position in the Fredricksburg area was much more than simply organizing events... Skip had a lot more on his plate than anyone in that particular region can handle.
Do I think that even with a nomination thread that Skip can be replaced... no way.
For 2006 the very active Community Organizers for the Mid-Atlantic Region were Peter (4theheckof_it) for Maryland, Tom (nandska) in Northern Virginia / DC Metro, and myself in Southern Virginia.
Due to his very hectic work schedule and personal life, Tom decided that it would be best to step down. Instead of replacing him, we decided that Peter and I could handle things solo. In my opinion, we did a very good job. Peter organized several very large monthly meets, including his infamous Wash & Wax Meets. I did the same, through my Hampton Roads Dinner Meets which had an average attendance over 15 members.
Once Peter was stationed out of the country I had to make a decision. He asked me simply to hire a temporary replacement for his section, however due to a simple misunderstanding the Mid-Atlantic Community was in search of a new group of Community Organizers.
Upon several nominations, we decided that Brian (O-Turn) would lead our Maryland area, Bill (bighead) would lead our Northern Virginia / DC Metro area, and I would personally lead our Southern Virginia Area.
The Community did have quite a gap, however between the Williamsburg to Fredricksburg area there is very little active members for the S2Ki Community. The decision to ask Skip to return as a Community Organizer was done by a few of the tenured community members. This was not only to fill in the gap between the burg to burg region, however also for a few other regions.
If you look at the existing community organizers, including myself you will notice that most of us are in our Mid-20's. While the community is getting younger, there are still several older members who would like to be active. Skip is a very mature person with a great deal on morals, his personality would truly attract not only the older yet also the younger audience. As well, over the past couple of years our more tenured Mid-Atlantic Veterans have fallen off. The idea was to have Skip return, hopefully gathering more interest from our 5+ Star members and have them become active again.
Skip's position in the Fredricksburg area was much more than simply organizing events... Skip had a lot more on his plate than anyone in that particular region can handle.
Do I think that even with a nomination thread that Skip can be replaced... no way.
We have maybe captured 10 percent of people that introduce themselves in the threads.
Brian and Bill do a lot for the community, with everything that Brian does with organizing meets, and the things that bill does with helping out with member's cars and moderating, also being a strong rep in autox's and things of that nature.
I look around at the meets and I see virtually no one diff then who I see usually at meets. It's always 80% HAW and 20% ex-HAW and maybe 1-2 new people that fall through the cracks and don't return.
As much as I love seeing the 5+ star members such as Skip, Tep, Mike Loving, etc. I would also like to grow our community. With that I think we need more local events, and by taking away one CO that would not help our cause.
Hopefully I have been an active member long enough to be heard.
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Brian, trust when I say I know this is a thankless job and no one is asking you to step aside. What I am saying is that there has been many things lacking in Mid-A and they are car related activites. That's what brought us all here together no? So, I think that whoever is nominated as a CO should be heavily into the S2000 to arrange meets that are car related or at least have the current CO's put more car related activities together. I dunno.... I may be wrong but isnt the reason we're all even here is because of the car itself?
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Originally Posted by boogers_r_yummy,Dec 18 2007, 02:27 PM
You're right, when I was CO I was in charge of arranging meets in MD. However, considering I lived in VA I held meets in VA AND MD. So instead of just arranging meets in VA, I arranged them where it was smack in the middle to accomodate both MD and VA folks. And that was Rockville. So to say that I left out the upper Maryland folks, I dont think I did. I'm quite sure my wash and wax meets brought in at least an average of 20 S2000's a meet and sometimes over 40. Many from all over, not just the DC Metro area.
Now that that has been cleared, here are my thoughts on things. I'm not here to bash anyone, nor am I trying to stir up any type of animosity. However, even though I've been gone all year, from what I've seen, there hasn't hardly been any meets that were S2000 related all year. I've seen one mod day and Fall Colors by Skip. Other than that, there have been plenty of happy hours but nothing related to the car that brought us all together.
I think the title of CO is someone that is going to bring EVERYONE together while incorporating the car that got us together, the S2000. New people that come to s2ki are not going to go to a party gathering if they dont know anyone. But if you had more S2000 related events, then more would come out to learn about the car, not to mention get to meet other members. No one wants to come to a gathering of people that have known each other for years and be the lone sheep out, and I think that's what happy hours do to them. As opposed to having more mod days, wash/wax meets, or just anything S2000 related, more folks are inclined to come out and meet new people because now there is a common theme that brought everyone together.
Chad, Tom, and I had events where we joined up with each other's region so that you all could meet each other. From Hampton Roads, folks came up here to meet us, and we came down to HR from the DC Area to meet up with them. Being CO is about organizing events to keep this place active and together.
Bill aka bighead is a big gear head and is more than capable of organizing events where folks can work on their car or come to learn about the car. However, there hasnt been any organized meets for this. Sure there have been "hey I'm changing brakes this weekend" threads, but those arent really organized to bring new members in to learn and to meet other members.
Brian aka O-turn has assembled decent meets in the upper Maryland side.
Skip did the Fall Colors which basically put Mid-A back on the map of s2ki by bring people from all over to this area, not to mention a lot of old memebers back from the brink of extinction.
Chad had the dinner meets in Hampton Roads.
So, after all the crap I wrote, I basically think that the new CO needs to be in a region that is hard to bring in new members, while working closely with the current ones to organize meets and events to bring it all together. Seeing that we have more than enough CO's it should be easy to bring everyone from all area's of Mid-A together with no sweat if someone wants to put in the time for it.
Now that that has been cleared, here are my thoughts on things. I'm not here to bash anyone, nor am I trying to stir up any type of animosity. However, even though I've been gone all year, from what I've seen, there hasn't hardly been any meets that were S2000 related all year. I've seen one mod day and Fall Colors by Skip. Other than that, there have been plenty of happy hours but nothing related to the car that brought us all together.
I think the title of CO is someone that is going to bring EVERYONE together while incorporating the car that got us together, the S2000. New people that come to s2ki are not going to go to a party gathering if they dont know anyone. But if you had more S2000 related events, then more would come out to learn about the car, not to mention get to meet other members. No one wants to come to a gathering of people that have known each other for years and be the lone sheep out, and I think that's what happy hours do to them. As opposed to having more mod days, wash/wax meets, or just anything S2000 related, more folks are inclined to come out and meet new people because now there is a common theme that brought everyone together.
Chad, Tom, and I had events where we joined up with each other's region so that you all could meet each other. From Hampton Roads, folks came up here to meet us, and we came down to HR from the DC Area to meet up with them. Being CO is about organizing events to keep this place active and together.
Bill aka bighead is a big gear head and is more than capable of organizing events where folks can work on their car or come to learn about the car. However, there hasnt been any organized meets for this. Sure there have been "hey I'm changing brakes this weekend" threads, but those arent really organized to bring new members in to learn and to meet other members.
Brian aka O-turn has assembled decent meets in the upper Maryland side.
Skip did the Fall Colors which basically put Mid-A back on the map of s2ki by bring people from all over to this area, not to mention a lot of old memebers back from the brink of extinction.
Chad had the dinner meets in Hampton Roads.
So, after all the crap I wrote, I basically think that the new CO needs to be in a region that is hard to bring in new members, while working closely with the current ones to organize meets and events to bring it all together. Seeing that we have more than enough CO's it should be easy to bring everyone from all area's of Mid-A together with no sweat if someone wants to put in the time for it.
You guys were awesome, no taking that from you. However, I have heard on MULTIPLE occasions that this is the best the Mid-A has been. Not new members mind you, but this isnt a contest, this is our community
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Originally Posted by boogers_r_yummy,Dec 18 2007, 02:37 PM
Brian, trust when I say I know this is a thankless job and no one is asking you to step aside. What I am saying is that there has been many things lacking in Mid-A and they are car related activites. That's what brought us all here together no? So, I think that whoever is nominated as a CO should be heavily into the S2000 to arrange meets that are car related or at least have the current CO's put more car related activities together. I dunno.... I may be wrong but isnt the reason we're all even here is because of the car itself?
I agree with you 100%
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Originally Posted by boogers_r_yummy,Dec 18 2007, 02:37 PM
Brian, trust when I say I know this is a thankless job and no one is asking you to step aside. What I am saying is that there has been many things lacking in Mid-A and they are car related activites. That's what brought us all here together no? So, I think that whoever is nominated as a CO should be heavily into the S2000 to arrange meets that are car related or at least have the current CO's put more car related activities together. I dunno.... I may be wrong but isnt the reason we're all even here is because of the car itself?
Champs Dinner
Chopsticks Meet 2x (Dinner + 30-40 minute drive)
2 Mod Days
Friendly Farms Meet (Drive + Dinner)
Bateman's (Dinner)
Fall Colors
All of these Dinners have has many people outside talking about cars and enjoying in the whole car culture. There has not been any wash and wax meets because i believe we can't find a replacement since Ngyuen left Criswell.
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Originally Posted by magikcow,Dec 18 2007, 02:33 PM
I do understand what was put in place before. However the amount of s2000's in this area is increasing.
We have maybe captured 10 percent of people that introduce themselves in the threads.
Brian and Bill do a lot for the community, with everything that Brian does with organizing meets, and the things that bill does with helping out with member's cars and moderating, also being a strong rep in autox's and things of that nature.
I look around at the meets and I see virtually no one diff then who I see usually at meets. It's always 80% HAW and 20% ex-HAW and maybe 1-2 new people that fall through the cracks and don't return.
As much as I love seeing the 5+ star members such as Skip, Tep, Mike Loving, etc. I would also like to grow our community. With that I think we need more local events, and by taking away one CO that would not help our cause.
Hopefully I have been an active member long enough to be heard.
We have maybe captured 10 percent of people that introduce themselves in the threads.
Brian and Bill do a lot for the community, with everything that Brian does with organizing meets, and the things that bill does with helping out with member's cars and moderating, also being a strong rep in autox's and things of that nature.
I look around at the meets and I see virtually no one diff then who I see usually at meets. It's always 80% HAW and 20% ex-HAW and maybe 1-2 new people that fall through the cracks and don't return.
As much as I love seeing the 5+ star members such as Skip, Tep, Mike Loving, etc. I would also like to grow our community. With that I think we need more local events, and by taking away one CO that would not help our cause.
Hopefully I have been an active member long enough to be heard.