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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 10:54 AM
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This is regarding the condition and misrepresentation of the 2001 Yellow AP1 - JHMAP11491T003243.

I spent a LOT of time working on this car, and I know it's true condition. I saw it posted for sale once again for a ridiculous $24,000 asking price and I can't in good conscience see another person get scammed with this POS.

To start, the biggest issue with this car is an undocumented crash. There is one documented hit on the CarFax from 2001, around the time the car was new. However, there is at least one more MAJOR hit that was never reported. The entire front of this car has been replaced, with mismatching fenders, hood and more importantly - the engine. last I recall the engine VIN and the hood VIN are the same - the donor car's VIN is JHMAP1147YT005020. Pulling the info on this VIN, we can see it was a silver S2000 crashed with 119,947 miles in 2015. Both the engine and transmission were swapped, meaning the drive train in this car currently has at least 130,000+ miles, despite what the original odometer states. Further issues:

- The paint job was a quick and crappy respray, probably meant to quickly sell the car. It's peeling and flaking all over.
- Someone literally cut GIANT holes in the door frames, most likely in an attempt to swap the window regulators
- All the wiring has been tampered with, door harnesses are all cut and spliced for an unknown reason. Power locks do not work.
- The car has very strange power steering, uneven when turning and oddly heavy. This is likely a result of the shoddy work or crash damage. At least one front wheel is / or was very badly bent.
- The panels don't line up. Originally the front fenders, hood, bumper, trunk and headlights were all completely misaligned. They are now almost "good enough" but someone who knows these cars will still clearly see the issues. Should be noted that in order to get the fenders and headlights to fit, the holes had to ovaled out and the panels pushed into place. The car likely isn't straight.
- This car can also be recognized by the bashed in lines behind the valve cover. Likely when they swapped the engine (or maybe from the crash?)

I don't fully know if the current seller is aware of the extent of this, but he stopped responding after asking about the engine and VINs, so that isn't a great sign.
Anyone looking into this car should be aware of what they are getting themselves into, and be fully aware that this car was badly crashed and questionably fixed. It certainly is not worth $24,000.

All of this should be easily provable as soon as anyone looks at the car in person. Last I saw it the engine VIN did match the VIN on the hood, but it's possible someone will remove it at some point. The back of the engine head and the transmission are stamped with the green VIN tag JHMAP1147YT005020 however and can be read with a mirror. I have also attached the VIN reports for both this car and donor car.

There is probably more I'm missing. This car is a mess.

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Engine VIN: Note the 5020 matching the silver car






Door damage:



Some of the wiring mess: (most of this is removed now) The door panels still have the shoddy splice job.









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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 10:56 AM
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By the way, here is a previous post for this car, where it again was misrepresented:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/cars-sal...0-obo-1203779/
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 11:21 AM
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Man... I usually don't support threads criticizing cars for sale but this is necessary. That thing is wayyy misrepresented and intentionally so. Sadly, someone will likely end up buying it at a price of $18k+. Hoping it was not sold/represented by the business in the background of the S2ki listing's pictures. I regularly browse their inventory for another enthusiast vehicle I'm interested in that they specialize in. Great job on the documentation as well. A+
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 11:34 AM
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Thanks. I agree it was necessary. The car was infact sold by davisautosport at one point in it's past. you can see that as well from here: https://picclick.com/2001-Honda-S200...781467456.html
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 03:15 PM
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Davis Autosports (who sold the car at least once) has some stunning 1-star reviews you can find with Google. They list themselves as a restoration shop in a hangar at the Richmond airport so I'm not surprised a wrecked S2000 ended up there at one time.

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Old Dec 2, 2021 | 07:59 AM
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Car is for sale again - From Euro Auto Sport
https://www.jdpower.com/inventory/20...alercode=22934
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 08:00 AM
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Here we go again. Feel bad for whoever buys this:
https://www.glas2000.com/vehicle-det...b941a99aa54c67
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Price went up too!

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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 12:01 PM
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Yep. I suppose that would be a decent price for an all original VIN matching car. For a salvaged POS...... not so much.
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBasedDoge
Here we go again. Feel bad for whoever buys this:
https://www.glas2000.com/vehicle-det...b941a99aa54c67
he bought it from glas and now we ran into rod knock problem. Crazy how the dealer made this car seem mint only to later find out this car is a laughing stock.
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