Really need your help guys....
Oh...more on my experience I'm relating above (if you don't mind) as it might be good advice...
I, much like you, believed that with no concrete evidence to the fact, thought the judge should throw the whole thing out. I mean, "innocent until proven guilty" right? So I run this point by the lawyer...you know, "Dude, for the 11 of us that weren't initially pulled over, you should fight it 100% and throw it out. Screw this 'Mercy of the court' crap!"
Well, that attorney offered me a little insight into "his world" that I have to admit I can appreciate. He said, "Dave, look at it like the judge will see it...Judge has to hear lies and testimony aaaaaall day long from folks that say 'I didn't speed'...'I didn't run a red light'...'I didn't, I didn't'... Add to that, for every case he makes a ruling on, there are other defendants in the courtroom awaiting their own turn 'up at bat'...and their typically listening intently on what the judge is handing down for everyone in front of them... Now you want me to represent 13 shiny sports cars, and tell the judge to let 11 of them go completely scott-free b/c the cop, who could *tell* you were speeding (i.e. going faster than rest of traffic) but didn't have 'proof' of it, should be let go? Sorry Dave, but that judge just ain't gonna do that and then have to live with each and every 'next case' walking up saying, 'You gave *them* a walk..whaddabout me?" I know where this lawyer was coming from...and I decided that he is more experienced in this matter than I could ever imagine to be. And you know what?...in his capable hands, we basically *did* get off...but in a way that let the judge save face, the cop save face, etc.
Kinda rambled there perhaps...but hopefully you get my intent.
- Dave
I, much like you, believed that with no concrete evidence to the fact, thought the judge should throw the whole thing out. I mean, "innocent until proven guilty" right? So I run this point by the lawyer...you know, "Dude, for the 11 of us that weren't initially pulled over, you should fight it 100% and throw it out. Screw this 'Mercy of the court' crap!"
Well, that attorney offered me a little insight into "his world" that I have to admit I can appreciate. He said, "Dave, look at it like the judge will see it...Judge has to hear lies and testimony aaaaaall day long from folks that say 'I didn't speed'...'I didn't run a red light'...'I didn't, I didn't'... Add to that, for every case he makes a ruling on, there are other defendants in the courtroom awaiting their own turn 'up at bat'...and their typically listening intently on what the judge is handing down for everyone in front of them... Now you want me to represent 13 shiny sports cars, and tell the judge to let 11 of them go completely scott-free b/c the cop, who could *tell* you were speeding (i.e. going faster than rest of traffic) but didn't have 'proof' of it, should be let go? Sorry Dave, but that judge just ain't gonna do that and then have to live with each and every 'next case' walking up saying, 'You gave *them* a walk..whaddabout me?" I know where this lawyer was coming from...and I decided that he is more experienced in this matter than I could ever imagine to be. And you know what?...in his capable hands, we basically *did* get off...but in a way that let the judge save face, the cop save face, etc.
Kinda rambled there perhaps...but hopefully you get my intent.
- Dave
Functional -- don't know your parents, but I have an 18-yr old. She called me one night, very, very upset with the words, "Mom, I've had an accident." Believe me, the last thing I was concerned about was a ticket, cost of insurance or anything else, but that she and the other person were ok. As it turns out, it was only a minor fender bender in a parking lot and it was not her fault. Today she called in tears because she'd locked her keys in her car. I was very, very happy to go out and unlock the car for her. Everytime her wheels leave my driveway, I pray that she'll be allright. So -- confess the ticket to your parents and remember that if they speak to you in anger, the anger will be because they KNOW how important your life is to them. Chances are, they'll not be happy with the news, but if you haven't been untruthful in the past, they'll believe what you have to say. Tell them the ENTIRE story -- and most of all tell them the truth. The next thing you need to do is hire an attorney who does a lot of traffic court. It has been my own experience (and I've unfortunate to get several speeding tickets) that the popo is just overjoyed to pull over a car like the one you're driving. Blessings, to you, my friend -- your parents are not the enemy -- they are the strongest allies you'll ever have. (And they can't be too bad -- you're driving an S2000)
wait a minute, how did the cop clock you if he was driving in the opposite direction? or was he stationary? i know for a fact in VA, an officer has to be stationary to clock you only if you are headed in his direction, also did he show you anything like his radar tellin you that you were doin that speed? i got pulled over doin 82 in 35 3rd day i got my car , cop was driving in the opposite direction, he pulled me over, my top was down, he told me throw my keys out, i did, he came and told me i was doin 82, i was like how? i was doin 80 +, he had nothin to show me, he was not stationary, he wrot eme a warning, picked my keys, and i was on my way
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vvtli78k...not sure where your getting your info, but an officer in the Commonwealth of Virginia does NOT have to be stationary to clock your speed on Radar. The officer can shoot moving or stationary (http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.ex...00+cod+46.2-882). I have ridden with my brother on several occasions where he clocked cars passing in opposite directions with Radar and proceeded to issue a ticket. Not to mention the fact that the officer could have been running Laser, in which case he can track the speed of multiple vehicles. But as Functional03 mentioned it doesn't sound like that is the case.
Functional03,
I would suggest seeking legal console, as stated before, reckless is a serious charge (Class 1 misdemeanor) especially at 18. Remember it's always the officers word against your and 9 times out of 10 they will win. He could have also chosen to give you a ticket for Aggressive driving or passing on the right (http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.ex...00+cod+46.2-841) and I'm sure the list goes on. Not trying to come down on you, just giving you the facts. Can you tell us where this happened and who you were pulled over by? Keep us posted.
-j
Functional03,
I would suggest seeking legal console, as stated before, reckless is a serious charge (Class 1 misdemeanor) especially at 18. Remember it's always the officers word against your and 9 times out of 10 they will win. He could have also chosen to give you a ticket for Aggressive driving or passing on the right (http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.ex...00+cod+46.2-841) and I'm sure the list goes on. Not trying to come down on you, just giving you the facts. Can you tell us where this happened and who you were pulled over by? Keep us posted.
-j







