sold
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 12,553
Likes: 0
From: Columbia, MD
Originally Posted by nightcrawler7188,Nov 11 2007, 05:38 PM
my dad wants to buy a Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO-150FD, so we are selling our current Samsung HLN617W 61" widescreen w/ DLP technology, WITH the matching stand in the picture. it is capable of up to 720p resolution. we have had it for ~4 years. $500, we can figure out delivery if you are serious
a new bulb costs 200 dollars. So keep that in mind if you are going to purchase.
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,917
Likes: 0
From: H-Town
Originally Posted by magikcow,Nov 16 2007, 11:26 AM
for anyone thinking about buying the TV. 4 years or so DLP bulbs if used somewhat regularly have a chance for burnout.
a new bulb costs 200 dollars. So keep that in mind if you are going to purchase.
a new bulb costs 200 dollars. So keep that in mind if you are going to purchase.
Thread Starter
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 10,158
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by magikcow,Nov 16 2007, 12:26 PM
for anyone thinking about buying the TV. 4 years or so DLP bulbs if used somewhat regularly have a chance for burnout.
a new bulb costs 200 dollars. So keep that in mind if you are going to purchase.
a new bulb costs 200 dollars. So keep that in mind if you are going to purchase.
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 12,553
Likes: 0
From: Columbia, MD
the bulb is user replaceable however there are other problems too
* In single-chip designs, some viewers are bothered by the "rainbow effect," explained above.
* Some viewers experience eye strain, headaches, and migraines when viewing DLP screens.
* Not as thin as LCD or plasma flat-panel displays (although approximately comparable in weight), though newer sets are thin enough to be wall-mounted.
* Some devices may have fan noise.
* Silk screen effect
* "Screen door effect" (SDE) may be visible at close distance and/or with lower resolution models (720p resolution and lower). SDE can also be perceived as artificially sharp looking (due to dark gaps between mirrors/pixels which are high frequency content, not part of the image displayed) and not film-like.
* Dithering noise may be noticeable, especially in dark image areas. Newer (post ~2004 which nightcrawlers is not) chip generations have less noise than older ones.
* Error-diffusion artifacts caused by averaging a shade over different pixels, since one pixel cannot render the shade exactly.
* Mediocre on-off contrast compared to CRT reference.
* Response time in video games may be affected by upscaling lag. While all HDTVs have some lag when upscaling lower resolution input to their native resolution, DLPs are commonly reported to have noticeably longer delays. Newer consoles such as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 do not have this problem as long as they are connected with HD-capable cables.[5]
* Color rendition can be off, especially the bright reds and yellows when at maximum brightness.
* More mechanical than traditional CRT, LCD, plasma, and LCoS displays.
* Poor viewing angle compared with direct-view technologies such as CRT, Plasma, and LCD.
* In single-chip designs, some viewers are bothered by the "rainbow effect," explained above.
* Some viewers experience eye strain, headaches, and migraines when viewing DLP screens.
* Not as thin as LCD or plasma flat-panel displays (although approximately comparable in weight), though newer sets are thin enough to be wall-mounted.
* Some devices may have fan noise.
* Silk screen effect
* "Screen door effect" (SDE) may be visible at close distance and/or with lower resolution models (720p resolution and lower). SDE can also be perceived as artificially sharp looking (due to dark gaps between mirrors/pixels which are high frequency content, not part of the image displayed) and not film-like.
* Dithering noise may be noticeable, especially in dark image areas. Newer (post ~2004 which nightcrawlers is not) chip generations have less noise than older ones.
* Error-diffusion artifacts caused by averaging a shade over different pixels, since one pixel cannot render the shade exactly.
* Mediocre on-off contrast compared to CRT reference.
* Response time in video games may be affected by upscaling lag. While all HDTVs have some lag when upscaling lower resolution input to their native resolution, DLPs are commonly reported to have noticeably longer delays. Newer consoles such as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 do not have this problem as long as they are connected with HD-capable cables.[5]
* Color rendition can be off, especially the bright reds and yellows when at maximum brightness.
* More mechanical than traditional CRT, LCD, plasma, and LCoS displays.
* Poor viewing angle compared with direct-view technologies such as CRT, Plasma, and LCD.
Thread Starter
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 10,158
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by magikcow,Nov 16 2007, 12:53 PM
the bulb is user replaceable however there are other problems too
* In single-chip designs, some viewers are bothered by the "rainbow effect," explained above.
* Some viewers experience eye strain, headaches, and migraines when viewing DLP screens.
* Not as thin as LCD or plasma flat-panel displays (although approximately comparable in weight), though newer sets are thin enough to be wall-mounted.
* Some devices may have fan noise.
* Silk screen effect
* "Screen door effect" (SDE) may be visible at close distance and/or with lower resolution models (720p resolution and lower). SDE can also be perceived as artificially sharp looking (due to dark gaps between mirrors/pixels which are high frequency content, not part of the image displayed) and not film-like.
* Dithering noise may be noticeable, especially in dark image areas. Newer (post ~2004 which nightcrawlers is not) chip generations have less noise than older ones.
* Error-diffusion artifacts caused by averaging a shade over different pixels, since one pixel cannot render the shade exactly.
* Mediocre on-off contrast compared to CRT reference.
* Response time in video games may be affected by upscaling lag. While all HDTVs have some lag when upscaling lower resolution input to their native resolution, DLPs are commonly reported to have noticeably longer delays. Newer consoles such as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 do not have this problem as long as they are connected with HD-capable cables.[5]
* Color rendition can be off, especially the bright reds and yellows when at maximum brightness.
* More mechanical than traditional CRT, LCD, plasma, and LCoS displays.
* Poor viewing angle compared with direct-view technologies such as CRT, Plasma, and LCD.
* In single-chip designs, some viewers are bothered by the "rainbow effect," explained above.
* Some viewers experience eye strain, headaches, and migraines when viewing DLP screens.
* Not as thin as LCD or plasma flat-panel displays (although approximately comparable in weight), though newer sets are thin enough to be wall-mounted.
* Some devices may have fan noise.
* Silk screen effect
* "Screen door effect" (SDE) may be visible at close distance and/or with lower resolution models (720p resolution and lower). SDE can also be perceived as artificially sharp looking (due to dark gaps between mirrors/pixels which are high frequency content, not part of the image displayed) and not film-like.
* Dithering noise may be noticeable, especially in dark image areas. Newer (post ~2004 which nightcrawlers is not) chip generations have less noise than older ones.
* Error-diffusion artifacts caused by averaging a shade over different pixels, since one pixel cannot render the shade exactly.
* Mediocre on-off contrast compared to CRT reference.
* Response time in video games may be affected by upscaling lag. While all HDTVs have some lag when upscaling lower resolution input to their native resolution, DLPs are commonly reported to have noticeably longer delays. Newer consoles such as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 do not have this problem as long as they are connected with HD-capable cables.[5]
* Color rendition can be off, especially the bright reds and yellows when at maximum brightness.
* More mechanical than traditional CRT, LCD, plasma, and LCoS displays.
* Poor viewing angle compared with direct-view technologies such as CRT, Plasma, and LCD.
thanks for being an asshole as usual. i knew i could expect that from you as soon as i posted it. selling this TV is not really important to us. we're just trying to get rid of it because it will be unnecessary in a few weeks' time.
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 12,553
Likes: 0
From: Columbia, MD
Originally Posted by nightcrawler7188,Nov 16 2007, 12:05 PM
thanks for being an asshole as usual. i knew i could expect that from you as soon as i posted it. selling this TV is not really important to us. we're just trying to get rid of it because it will be unnecessary in a few weeks' time.akas2k feels that this is good advice, also highlift felt that the advice was valid. Are you saying my points are not correct? or did you not want the person that was purchasing it the cons of owning a DLP?
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 11,917
Likes: 0
From: H-Town
Originally Posted by nightcrawler7188,Nov 16 2007, 12:05 PM
thanks for being an asshole as usual. i knew i could expect that from you as soon as i posted it. selling this TV is not really important to us. we're just trying to get rid of it because it will be unnecessary in a few weeks' time.
continuing a good name for yourself I see.