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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Okay, so I bought the car brand new in November of '06 with 6 miles on her. I drove the car under 6000RPM for two days of driving which totaled 772 miles on the odometer. The car was then immediately prepped for storage and will be coming back out on April 19th.

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The oil in the car is still the original brake-in oil that's supposed to be there for at least 3000 miles. I don't see how the oil will have gone bad just sitting in the bottom of the oil pan for five months. To me it seems no different then sitting in a bottle on the shelf at the parts store. I'm concerned about taking the bake-in oil out too soon. I haven't even hit vtec yet.

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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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If I remember correctly, that break in oil with the molybedendum or whatever should be in there for more than 3000 miles. There is alot of posts on this for both arguments. I would be very weary of changing that oil before what the manual says, whatever that is since I don't have mine with me right now.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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I thought the breakin oil has to stay for 7500 miles. I'd leave it in there.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by paivag,Mar 29 2007, 09:51 PM
I thought the breakin oil has to stay for 7500 miles. I'd leave it in there.
You don't think it matters that it's been sitting in the car for at least five months. You know that old saying..."3000 miles or 3 months, which ever comes first!"
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by paivag,Mar 29 2007, 09:51 PM
I thought the breakin oil has to stay for 7500 miles. I'd leave it in there.
By the way I think you're right about it being 7500 miles. I think Scott would know for sure...maybe he'll chime in with his thoughts?
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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That break in additive helps your motor break in propperly. I think it would be much more harmful to change that out too early. If you are hell bent on changing it because of the time factor, I would find out what and how much they put int here for your re-fill and let that go for the whole 7500 miles. I am sure honda wasn't shooting from the hip when they recomended the first change be at that interval.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JJARVIS,Mar 29 2007, 06:54 PM
You know that old saying..."3000 miles or 3 months, which ever comes first!"
That's just a marketing gimmic from places like Jiffy Lube.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:10 AM
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Think of it as having been on a dealer's lot for the past 4 months, if you were just buying it now I'm sure you wouldn't be canging the oil right away. I'd probably leave it in till about 4-5k miles.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 04:16 AM
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Leave it in , you will be fine

Yes ,I left mine for 7500 while topping off now and then with non synthetic .
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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OMG, do you have a problem. First off, you must keep the break in oil in the car for at least 7500 miles or your engine will not break in properly. There is no way your rings will properly bed into the cylinder walls without this oil. Use of any other oil will result in a car that burns excessive amounts of oil and does not produce over 170 WHP. The longevity, durability, and performance of the motor depends on this oil.

The oil is so special that Honda does not provide it to the dealers, except for what is in the crankase of the S2000 engines as delivered. Honda is concerned that their trade secrets would be too easy to duplicate if they sold the oil by the quart, and that other manufacturers would soon meet the Honda reputation for durability. So there is no replacement break-in oil available.

Storing your car with previously run break-in oil causes significant problems. When sitting for prolonged periods, the oil absorbs surrounding atmospheric moisture. In day to day applications, this is not a problem, because the quantity of moisture is minimal and is quickly evaporated out of the oil when the engine heats up. But after long storage, the oil can absorb up to a cup of water, greatly reducing the oil's protective properties, neutralizing it's break-in characteristics, and threatening severe engine damage.

In situations where you are going to store the vehicle before the engine is broken in, you should drain the break-in oil into a clean container and then fill the cranckase with a fresh non-synthetic commercially available oil. At the end of storage, drain out the new oil and use it elsewhere or discard it and return the break-in oil to your crankcase.

However, in your situation, you have a real problem. Here is what you should do. Jack up your car and place it on stands. Go to the kitchen and get your wife's best stainless steel pot. It has to be big enough to hold 5 quarts. Make sure it is perfectly clean inside. Go to the car and carefully clean around the drain plug to avoid contamination. Remove drain plug and drain the oil into the wife's pot. Once the crankcase is empty, take the pot into the kitchen and heat the oil on the stove over a low flame or low setting. Warm up the oil and stir it occasionally. DO NOT BOIL THE OIL. Use a meat thermometer to measure the temp. Keep it around 210 degrees. This heating will evaporate the trapped moisture. After heating and stirring for about 60 minutes, remove the oil from stove and let it cool WITHOUT A COVER ON IT. A cover will create condensation and you will be right back in the same mess. After it cools, carefully return it to your car with a clean funnel. Make sure the drain plug is back in its hole first.

This will take care of your problems and ensure the perfect performance of your engine.

Or, you could just drive it and see what happens.
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