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Ann Coulter- WTF is her deal?

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Old 05-07-2003, 11:09 AM
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She is involved in politics so I don't know if this crosses the line into the "political" topic category. Not trying to piss off any moderators here so just let me know if this is against the rules.

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because
they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism." - Ann Coulter, MSNBC 8/2/1997.

"People like you caused us to lose that war." - Ann Coulter, MSNBC. Ann Coulter speaking to a disabled Vietnam war veteran. Compassionate Conservatism my ass.

On Princess Diana's death, little Annie said: "Her children knew she's sleeping with all these men. That just seems to me, it's the definition of 'not a good mother.' ... Is everyone just saying here that it's okay to ostentatiously have premarital sex in front of your children?"..."[Diana is] an ordinary and pathetic and confessional - I've never had bulimia! I've never had an affair! I've never had a divorce! So I don't think she's better than I am." - Ann Coulter, MSNBC 9/12/97. Talk about speaking ill of the dead!

But don't let Ann fool you; she certainly was not against Diana's life style for religious reasons. Its not like Ann's a comitted Christian or anything. Here's proof: "Let's say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married." - Ann Coulter, Rivera Live 6/7/00.

Ann probably just hated Diana because she was a caring "liberal" or something, she advocates hatred of Bill Clinton too! Look: "If you don't hate Clinton and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country." - Ann Coulter, George, July 1999.

Its all hate, hate, hate with Annie. She likes George W. Bush because she thinks Dubya "hates liberals" too: "The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals." - Ann Coulter, Washington Post 8/1/00.

Its not just other people Ann seems to have no respect for, this particularly appalling quote suggests to me that she has no repect for our world either: "God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'" - Ann Coulter, Hannity and Colmes 6/20/01.

Okay, one last quote from the hateful fascist, and this time its one about her views on crime and punishment: "I have to say I'm all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the 'hood to be flogged publicly." - Ann Coulter, MSNBC 3/22/97. Looks like she has no respect for human rights either.
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Who is Ann Coulter, and may we publically flog her for being stupid? (I have to agree though that some kids could use a good spanking)
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She appears on MSNBC, and is a regular on Bill Maher's new show on HBO. She even managed to write a book.
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I have to first ask where you got these quotes from. Were they with the commentary or had you added them yourself?

Anne Coulter is an ultra-conservative. To label her as a fascist is to label hardcore liberals as socialists...neither of which are true.

This might be long, so bare with me, I found this interesting:

In reference to the Princess Diana commentary, she was commenting on the astounded praise Diana received after her tragic death, many referring to her as a "good" mother. Unfortunately, all that was said about the adultery, children's knowledge of her sleeping around, sad but true. If it were any "common Joanne", you know what people would refer to her as. "Good mother" not being one of them.

"If you don't hate Clinton and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country."
President of the United States of America: Lying under oath. Hmm....isn't the president supposed to represent the country he governs and more than anything, uphold and respect the laws of this country? Basically, someone lying to a whole country alongside making a joke of the rules and laws while he represents them. The Constitution and Bill of Rights are , essentially, the roots of the United States. He made a mockery of them. No love there.

In reference to the "God gave us this Earth..." Comment: What you posted was a portion of the debate on Hannity and Colmes. The topic was Al Gore's comments on blood spilled on soil (aftermath of war) is contaminating the planet, his (Al Gore's) valuation of trees over human life, greenpeace, and animal rights activists.

And as for the crime and punishment comment. If I'm not mistaken, the topic of debate on MSNBC (Harball) was on the overcrowding of the jails and the early release of rapists and thieves due to the overcrowding. Her radical point was that the soon-to-be criminals, adolescence already in the juvenile correction facilities, are not being treated with the proper punishment for their crimes, which in turn, gives high probability that they will commit crimes again, once they become adults. She compared them to "day camps", which holds some truth. Her solution to the failing system was to basically humiliate these young criminals in front of their "peers" to show that being "tough" and "someone not to mess with because I served some time" no longer holds ground. I personally know some guys from high school that held this as a badge of honor. The flogging, a public spanking, would be funny at the same time effective.

Anne Coulter is a radical conservative. I think she speaks this way to get notoriety and a rise out of people. If you were to simply read portions of debate, which is the case of your post, she seems to be some nutcase fascist. You need to read or hear the FULL debate to understand what is said and meant. Although I don't agree with all that she has said, there is some validity in her ideologies.

As a side note. I remember you posting numerous comments on the fatal crash in Santa Ana. Weren't you the guy who said the person allegedly involved with the race that ended up killing an innocent old woman and who fled the scene, not turn himself in?
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I don't see anything wrong with what she said.

And THANKS arabian for setting the record straight! Liberals like Lee355 can't argue with the truth so they try to be efficacious by manipulating the truth!

People like this are hazardous to the health of a democracy!
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Now that I think about it, could it be that Lee355 is threatened by Coulter because of her superior intelect. Imagine, a nice looking blonde being able to espouse upon principles that he, a male, can't grasp!

I think the above is a fair statement since he only grasped part of story, don't you?
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I have to first ask where you got these quotes from. Were they with the commentary or had you added them yourself?

The quotes in " " are right from her mouth, I didn't add anything to them.

Anne Coulter is an ultra-conservative. To label her as a fascist is to label hardcore liberals as socialists...neither of which are true.

Not entirely true. I've listened to her comments on Bill Maher's show quite a bit and her views are extreme. The above quotes prove my point.

This might be long, so bare with me, I found this interesting:

In reference to the Princess Diana commentary, she was commenting on the astounded praise Diana received after her tragic death, many referring to her as a "good" mother. Unfortunately, all that was said about the adultery, children's knowledge of her sleeping around, sad but true. If it were any "common Joanne", you know what people would refer to her as. "Good mother" not being one of them.


I agree but she forms her comments in a way that reveals a hateful nature about herself. Also, although some may not think making these sort of remarks about someone who is dead is inappropriate, I do.

"If you don't hate Clinton and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country."
President of the United States of America: Lying under oath. Hmm....isn't the president supposed to represent the country he governs and more than anything, uphold and respect the laws of this country? Basically, someone lying to a whole country alongside making a joke of the rules and laws while he represents them. The Constitution and Bill of Rights are , essentially, the roots of the United States. He made a mockery of them. No love there.


So why doesn't she make comments about Bush cheating in the election? Isn't that contrary to upholding and respecting the laws of this country? Although Clinton was hiding a more conservative nature, he was still the best Republican president we ever had.

In reference to the "God gave us this Earth..." Comment: What you posted was a portion of the debate on Hannity and Colmes. The topic was Al Gore's comments on blood spilled on soil (aftermath of war) is contaminating the planet, his (Al Gore's) valuation of trees over human life, greenpeace, and animal rights activists.

And that makes it okay to say "God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours."? Incredibly frightening to consider that some actually agree with this.

And as for the crime and punishment comment. If I'm not mistaken, the topic of debate on MSNBC (Harball) was on the overcrowding of the jails and the early release of rapists and thieves due to the overcrowding. Her radical point was that the soon-to-be criminals, adolescence already in the juvenile correction facilities, are not being treated with the proper punishment for their crimes, which in turn, gives high probability that they will commit crimes again, once they become adults. She compared them to "day camps", which holds some truth. Her solution to the failing system was to basically humiliate these young criminals in front of their "peers" to show that being "tough" and "someone not to mess with because I served some time" no longer holds ground. I personally know some guys from high school that held this as a badge of honor. The flogging, a public spanking, would be funny at the same time effective.

I can think of much better ways to turn a juvenile delinquent's life around than by "public flogging". That is extremely archaic and falls under "cruel and unusual punishment."

Anne Coulter is a radical conservative. I think she speaks this way to get notoriety and a rise out of people. If you were to simply read portions of debate, which is the case of your post, she seems to be some nutcase fascist. You need to read or hear the FULL debate to understand what is said and meant. Although I don't agree with all that she has said, there is some validity in her ideologies.

Her ideologies are that Americans are more valuable than human beings that live in other countries, and that suffering of others is worth improving our own quality of life. Not everyone may agree, but I don't value the life of an American any more than I value the life of an Iraqi.

As a side note. I remember you posting numerous comments on the fatal crash in Santa Ana. Weren't you the guy who said the person allegedly involved with the race that ended up killing an innocent old woman and who fled the scene, not turn himself in?

Yes I did, because spending countless years behind bars would accomplish nothing for anyone. I said the way for him to be "morally responsible" is to be a good person and improve his own life and the lives of those around him. The argument wasn't about whether or not he should have been racing in the first place, or should have run in the first place, it was about whether or not he should sacrifice that many years of his life for nothing.
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I don't see anything wrong with what she said.

All we can do his hope that not many others feel the same way.

And THANKS arabian for setting the record straight! Liberals like Lee355 can't argue with the truth so they try to be efficacious by manipulating the truth!

The truth? The only hard evidence in this thread so far are direct quotes in that first post. Instead of making asinine personal attacks it might be more effective to go find quotes of your own that you agree with. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

People like this are hazardous to the health of a democracy!

You mean people who don't agree with everything the government does? That's what democracy is about, voicing your opinion. Go ahead and tell me what your points of view are instead of just criticizing without anything to back your statement up.
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Now that I think about it, could it be that Lee355 is threatened by Coulter because of her superior intelect.

You might want to learn how to spell before criticizing another's "intelect".

Imagine, a nice looking blonde being able to espouse upon principles that he, a male, can't grasp!

Her hateful personally makes her look somewhat ugly anyway, but if you think she's nice looking... again, whatever floats your boat. Which "principles" are you referring to?

I think the above is a fair statement since he only grasped part of story, don't you?

What would you like me to do, document every word that was said during each of those entire interviews? I found direct quotes that I simply did not agree with and posted them to form a discussion. I fail to understand the validity of your argument.
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