View Poll Results: Do you shop WalMart
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Anti WalMart
Originally Posted by veilside_s2k,Jun 29 2008, 08:11 PM
Originally Posted by GPMike,Jun 29 2008, 06:14 PM
Wrong wrong wrong.
Look up the definition of predatory capitalism. If we had a functioning government...Wal-Mart wouldn't exist.
Look up the definition of predatory capitalism. If we had a functioning government...Wal-Mart wouldn't exist.
A functioning government? You mean MORE regulations and competency?? What happened to your conservative views?
Looks like all the companies Walmart screws up gotta pull themselves up from their boot straps, no other ****ing way around it.
Originally Posted by ksxxsk,Jun 29 2008, 11:13 PM
Glad to see all the wal-mart haters fitting the archetype of a "wall-mart hater".
Here is the flipside.
First of all, the American workforce is awful. I go through about 25 employees a month, and Americans can't hold a candle to foreign workers. To add insult to injury, Americans demand more money for their subpar work (as clearly evidenced by the American motor industry.)
Not only that, the economy being where it is, increasing prices on consumer necessities with stagnant salaries, people just don't have as much money to spend. Mom and pop stores can't afford to sell goods at the prices consumers can afford to pay.
Now, please, forget this Ipod, plasma TV, and motor oil non-sense, and take a measure of a TRUE consumer necessity....take toilet paper, tomatoes, and clothing.
Now, those are three things that the average lower/middle class American NEEDS. All three items can be had at the "big guys" stores a LOT cheaper than local groceries. Furthermore, those items need to be made for LESS money so the company can afford to make a profit selling it to the store shelves. Now, the stores can't raise prices, since people...
a)don't have the money to buy the product at the higher price
b)will go to where the product is cheaper.
However, the company can't afford to sell at the store's price, since their overhead and production costs are too great...so they too, need a cheap way out. Unfortunately for them, that means finding labor outside the US walls.
This is what WALMART is doing...they are providing consumers with the prices they can pay.
This is the nature of business...consumers will ALWAYS go to where their dollar is most powerful. Home Depot killed almost every private hardware store in the US. IS that wrong? Well, depends on who you ask. Consumers are happy they pay less, but the consumer's father who owns a hardware store isn't.
This also has close relations with American's crying that immigrants are stealing their jobs. Again, I deal with this directly on a daily basis. Try hiring an American to hand out paper towels in the bathroom, pick oranges in 110 degree Florida heat, or do gruntwork in the sweltering heat of NYC. Not gonna happen, and if you did find one, they want 10X the money for it. As a business owner, you can't afford to pay that sort of wage, and still make any meaningful profit.
My personal belief.....
America did it to itself. The lack of education, lack of motivation, government handouts, and the general laziness of the major American public, caused everything to shift to the other side....inside and out.
I voted never even though the wife goes there from time to time.
I personally avoid the place like the plague. its not because of their policies or anything on the political front. I cant stand the place because it is impssible to spend less than an hour there.
If you pull into the parking lot you lose an hour of your life whether you go into the infernal place or not.
I CANT STAND GOING THERE!!! Target is getting just as bad IMHO.
I personally avoid the place like the plague. its not because of their policies or anything on the political front. I cant stand the place because it is impssible to spend less than an hour there.
If you pull into the parking lot you lose an hour of your life whether you go into the infernal place or not.
I CANT STAND GOING THERE!!! Target is getting just as bad IMHO.
Originally Posted by mingster,Jun 29 2008, 06:05 PM
ok, ok, so how many of you have ACTUALLY done business with walmart? and when i say done business i don't mean "yeah my company does business with them" or "yeah, my 2nd cousin is sort of the secret girlfriend of the store manager". i'm talking about dealing with the buyers direct, doing line reviews, planogram reviews, sales calls, and all the things that needs to be done as a direct walmart vendor.
Walmart dictates all the terms and dictates the selling price to them and the retail price to the lower the selling price to the consumer to the point where you are counting on the large volume of sales to counter the lower than normal margins you will incur by dealing with them.
We have a lot of loyal and dedicated dealers and for us, it simply was not worth the repercussions of dealing with Walmart and losing practically all of our dealers by doing so.
I do happily sell to Target though.
I am scared to go to walmart anymore. I prefer Target. The clinetele of walmart frightens me. I've only been to one other place where you have to be careful and guard your cart because otherwise someone will steal your cart.
I'm not talking about stealing your personal property, but someone who is so lazy that instead of going to the front of the store to get a cart they'll grab your cart and take the stuff you are planning to buy out of it so they can use it themselves.
Wal-Mart is trying to come into my town and is being fought with GREAT oppostion. Personally I don't care if it comes or not, but a lot of people don't want it here.
I'm not talking about stealing your personal property, but someone who is so lazy that instead of going to the front of the store to get a cart they'll grab your cart and take the stuff you are planning to buy out of it so they can use it themselves.
Wal-Mart is trying to come into my town and is being fought with GREAT oppostion. Personally I don't care if it comes or not, but a lot of people don't want it here.
the main reasons i HATE walmart is
parking is HORRIBLE. nearly in another zip code.
Employees have zero product knowledge.
only like 1 employee in electronics.
when you go in is just 'feels' not right.
logo doesn't really do it for me.
parking is HORRIBLE. nearly in another zip code.
Employees have zero product knowledge.
only like 1 employee in electronics.
when you go in is just 'feels' not right.
logo doesn't really do it for me.















