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Off-topic TalkWhere overpaid, underworked S2000 owners waste the worst part of their days before the drive home. This forum is for general chit chat and discussions not covered by the other off-topic forums.
Originally Posted by thebig33tuna,Jan 25 2011, 01:23 PM
Except that the component parts of a friken s2k aren't available for cheaper than the finished product, nor are they available to *every other car manufacturer*... your analogy is a total fail.
Internals of a mac:
-major manufacturer gfx card
-Intel chip and compatible mobo
-major manufacturer [everything else]
Alienware is even more broad, but again, all parts you can get yourself and any other computer manufacturer can get (except... the branded case, in either case)
So you can build literally the exact same thing yourself, or any other laptop manufacturer can build the same thing. You can also buy the latest Apple OS and install it on any PC with an intel processor, so uh... again, exactly the same.
Computers are the sum of their parts. There isn't a magical dust that Apple and Alienware sprinkle over their systems to make them more awesome. What apple does is make a very attractive package for it's internals and ditches a lot of things that people use rarely in order to slim it down.
If you build your own little trackday car out of spare parts and put it together and make it as fast as an S2000, it's still NOT the same car... it's a car with comparable performance. The difference is obvious. A computer is *literally the sum of the same damn parts* in the case of Alienware or Apple vs an asus/toshiba/whatever.
Anyway, this whole argument is ridiculous and I can't believe I'm bothering to participate in it. Anyone who pays full price for an Alienware is throwing away money, end of story. If you got yours cheap, great, good for you. That wouldn't make it any less of a waste for the OP. People buy Apple products for customer service, perceived quality, ease of use (again, packaging) and their exterior design. There is *nothing wrong with that* ... but there is something wrong with your analogy.
except that the components of the components of the s2k are matter. So technically it's all still the same shit. Analogy still valid, blow me.
Not to mention that every aspect of a computers performance can be quantified with various benchmark programs.
Then you would be looking a price to performance ratio, then other factors such as reliability and warranty come into play. Computer building is a very easy task, I learned to do it all reading google articles for acouple hours then went to Frys electronics and did it all myself.
I even have a good friend, she HATES her husbands MAC obsession and claims he only likes it because its trendy and he likes to be seen in starbucks with his mac book. So to get him, she had me build him a PC with a Mac Pro case, it ran win 7 with the apple looking task bar etc.... granted they are nearly identical when it is compared parts to parts. He gave her 10k to get this mac pro and we built it for $2200.
Needless to say she gave me a good tip for the build and kept the rest for herself. To this day, the hubby doesnt know its all a pc and not even running apples os, he swears its a mac and the best around ^^
You should check out Cyberpower. You can pretty much customize every single component to your liking. It's like building your PC yourself except you are just picking the parts you want online.
Originally Posted by Gymkata,Jan 25 2011, 08:19 PM
You should check out Cyberpower. You can pretty much customize every single component to your liking. It's like building your PC yourself except you are just picking the parts you want online.
This is almost what I have... actually ibuypower which is more or less the same. Bought through newegg because I knew they'd accept a return without question. The price of the computer was cheaper than the parts+OS combined. It has been running solid without issue for ... 6months maybe?
I definitely would not get Alienware. I just recently bought a dell Xps laptop, with all of the upgrades including 8gigs of memory, a blu-ray drive and everything else you could imagine.
I purchased it from dell and it ran me about $2000,00 and they were willing to do 0% financing.
I love my laptop and it hasn't given me any problems since i have had it.
I took all of the specs of my laptop and went to the alienware website and built an exact replica and it was over $3300!