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Anyone Read the LA Times article on Who Shot TUpac?

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Old Sep 9, 2002 | 06:01 PM
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Well, as some of you may know, a couple of days ago was the 6th anniversary of the shooting in the unsolved case of the "death" of Tupac Shakur, just wondering if anyone has been following this, and if they have a theory to who really "killed" Tupac, especially in the midst of the LA Times article 3 days ago, input is appreciated, thnx... Personally, I dunno, but to those who know or have heard of the "alive" theory, the "seven" day theory it also does seem to make some sense to why all these strange coincidences have occured... only time will tell, anyway, holla back...

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Old Sep 9, 2002 | 06:29 PM
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I have a theory that no matter how much you say the word "peace", if you live like a thug, eventually you'll die like a thug.
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Old Sep 9, 2002 | 06:37 PM
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Man, thats harsh, but some people dont choose the position that they are in, they just have to accept it, he had no real father, his mom was a black panther and crack addict, I mean, considering all that he had to go through, I am surprised he made it to 25 years old. Eye for an eye, kill or be killed mentality maybe didn't help his cause, but the man was prophetic in the message he conveyed, The good die young... I mean he did more work in 25 years that people do in three lifetimes, if Martin Luther King died at 25, he would be known as a Minister, if Gandhi died at 25, he would have been known as a lawyer, when Tupac died at 25, he was known as a legend an paved the way through his lyrics to convey his message, ultimately of survival....
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Old Sep 9, 2002 | 07:53 PM
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I heard on the radio that they think Biggie did it.
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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by EvoVII
Man, thats harsh, but some people dont choose the position that they are in, they just have to accept it, he had no real father, his mom was a black panther and crack addict, I mean, considering all that he had to go through, I am surprised he made it to 25 years old. Eye for an eye, kill or be killed mentality maybe didn't help his cause, but the man was prophetic in the message he conveyed, The good die young... I mean he did more work in 25 years that people do in three lifetimes, if Martin Luther King died at 25, he would be known as a Minister, if Gandhi died at 25, he would have been known as a lawyer, when Tupac died at 25, he was known as a legend an paved the way through his lyrics to convey his message, ultimately of survival....
Just because someone has a harsh childhood doesn't give them the right to act illegally or irresponsibly when they get older. He was 25 years old . . . an adult and long past the statute of limitations on feeling sorry for himself. He was no victim. He had money and could have removed himself from the violence and become an example of how to leave the gang lifestyle behind and live like a real man. But instead, he continued to willingly participate in gang-related activities. He even cultivated the gang member image to sell records. Yes, it's sad . . . but not because the world lost a hero - it didn't. But because people look up to him like a hero. It doesn't matter how many times you say the word "peace". If you'll take out your "9" and bust a cap in someone who dis's you or wears the wrong color bandana - you're still a thug.

By the way, If Gandhi and MLK Jr had died at 25, they would not have reached hero status, but they still would have died as men of character. And comparing an active gang member who participated in god knows how many violent crimes to those great leaders insults their memory. Rev Martin Luther King, Jr was the premier leader in the civil rights movement and accomplished as much or more to get black Americans their due rights as anyone in history. And he did it by LIVING peace and respect for all people, not just giving it lip service and then going out and participating in violence. Gandhi freed a country from British rule and helped different religious groups live together in peace. Unfortunately, the world has forgotten these men's message. Sure, they are still held up as heroes, but more often than not the people that claim to follow them don't understand the non-violent everyone is equal message and corrupt it.
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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 12:11 AM
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I read the article online a few days ago, it's quite interesting, and most of the investigation seems to be serious and well done, but the claim that Biggie was in Las Vegas that day under a false name seems a bit far-fetched.
However it's quite clear that the Las Vegas police were pretty much incompetent and unwilling to solve that murder. As someone says in the article, 'if a white celebrity as famous as Tupac had been murdered on a busy street, the investigation would have been much quicker and efficient'.
I still much prefer Biggie's music
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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 08:04 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BDMonk
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Just because someone has a harsh childhood doesn't give them the right to act illegally or irresponsibly when they get older.
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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 08:23 AM
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He was a thug. Rich and successful, but a thug. His childhood sucked, but he had the resources to not only escape that past for himself, but also to raise the level of each and every family in the neighborhood that he came from...and he decided to remain a thug.

I'm sorry he was killed, but he lived the life he chose to live.
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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 09:09 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Da Hapa
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Thank you for articulating exactly how I feel.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a shame when anyone is killed.
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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 09:17 AM
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I believe that I understand the role he played. He was a voice that people could relate to. He had a power in the community that is undeniable.

Where I'm coming from is that he used that voice and that power not to raise himself up from his less than ideal beginnings, nor to give back to his community to help to raise them up. Instead, he did nothing productive with the money other than to buy nice stuff and more expensive guns.

I think his life is sad, all the more because once he had the opportunity to rise above he still didn't.
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