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Originally Posted by 714s2k,Apr 18 2007, 02:37 PM
Um I'm pretty sure that falls somewhere under Cruel and Unusual Punishment Even tho I get what your saying, we got laws for a reason..
its not cruel to put somebody to sleep via a needle prick.
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Originally Posted by Mindcore,Apr 18 2007, 02:54 PM
Considering my mom desperatly needs a kidney, I say what ever it takes to make it happen.
Financial exploitation suggests that the donor (especially in the Indian subcontinent and Africa) are not paid "enough." This argument generally relies upon the assumption that there exists some financial amount that does indeed constitute "enough," but that the donors in question are not receiving this amount of money in return. Some evidence suggests that in an operation for a kidney the transplantee pays $125,000 USD. Of this, $20,000 is received by the donor, $40,000 is paid to a private hospital, $10,000 goes on flights and accommodation. This leaves the broker with a profit of $55,000. Some would suggest the donors are not receiving enough and hence are exploited. Other evidence describes brokers as only receiving $10,000. The high prices and profits may be partly attributed to the black-market status of the transaction.
i would rather get my organ from a convict with paperwork, than some poor poor guy in a third world country that gets kidnapped and ripped apart for 10gs.
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Originally Posted by trainwreck,Apr 18 2007, 01:59 PM
organ donation
Financial exploitation suggests that the donor (especially in the Indian subcontinent and Africa) are not paid "enough." This argument generally relies upon the assumption that there exists some financial amount that does indeed constitute "enough," but that the donors in question are not receiving this amount of money in return. Some evidence suggests that in an operation for a kidney the transplantee pays $125,000 USD. Of this, $20,000 is received by the donor, $40,000 is paid to a private hospital, $10,000 goes on flights and accommodation. This leaves the broker with a profit of $55,000. Some would suggest the donors are not receiving enough and hence are exploited. Other evidence describes brokers as only receiving $10,000. The high prices and profits may be partly attributed to the black-market status of the transaction.
i would rather get my organ from a convict with paperwork, than some poor poor guy in a third world country that gets kidnapped and ripped apart for 10gs.
Financial exploitation suggests that the donor (especially in the Indian subcontinent and Africa) are not paid "enough." This argument generally relies upon the assumption that there exists some financial amount that does indeed constitute "enough," but that the donors in question are not receiving this amount of money in return. Some evidence suggests that in an operation for a kidney the transplantee pays $125,000 USD. Of this, $20,000 is received by the donor, $40,000 is paid to a private hospital, $10,000 goes on flights and accommodation. This leaves the broker with a profit of $55,000. Some would suggest the donors are not receiving enough and hence are exploited. Other evidence describes brokers as only receiving $10,000. The high prices and profits may be partly attributed to the black-market status of the transaction.
i would rather get my organ from a convict with paperwork, than some poor poor guy in a third world country that gets kidnapped and ripped apart for 10gs.
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Originally Posted by trainwreck,Apr 18 2007, 01:56 PM
currently i am not an organ donor because i believe that if i ever get into an accident, the emt guy will see that i am a donor and not try as hard to save me.
The issues of cloning and organ donation involve a seemingly infinite number of ethical issues. It makes my head spin.
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Originally Posted by trainwreck,Apr 18 2007, 05:44 PM
per wiki, As of July 1, 2006, there were 3,366 prisoners awaiting execution in the United States. assuming a rate of 90% ineligible for donation to due any reason, 300 complete bodies would be up for grabs.
per wiki again, In the United States, the waiting list is quoted to be about 94,000 people long.[4] It is not uncommon for those on the waiting list to die before receiving a suitable organ.
per wiki again, In the United States, the waiting list is quoted to be about 94,000 people long.[4] It is not uncommon for those on the waiting list to die before receiving a suitable organ.
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Originally Posted by shareall,Apr 18 2007, 07:49 PM
That's an interesting argument I haven't heard of before. What would the EMT's motivation be for not saving you? Admittedly I'm not very familiar with the American health care system, but do EMT's get a cut or some kind of incentive if they bring in a donor?
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Originally Posted by zdave87,Apr 18 2007, 04:57 PM
No.
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Originally Posted by zdave87,Apr 18 2007, 04:56 PM
People who use Wiki as a source, shouldn't even be allowed to donate nor be on a donor list.
btw wiki is for the most part accurate. aside from those comedians that post prank articles.
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Originally Posted by shareall,Apr 18 2007, 03:49 PM
That's an interesting argument I haven't heard of before. What would the EMT's motivation be for not saving you? Admittedly I'm not very familiar with the American health care system, but do EMT's get a cut or some kind of incentive if they bring in a donor?
The issues of cloning and organ donation involve a seemingly infinite number of ethical issues. It makes my head spin.
The issues of cloning and organ donation involve a seemingly infinite number of ethical issues. It makes my head spin.