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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 04:23 PM
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Actually even though I'm an Athlon guy (all my machines are Athlons), P4's run cooler.

I had an Athlon 1800+ notebook and was pissed that it was too hot, so I returned it and got the same notebook in a P4 2.4 Ghz and it runs way cooler.

I don't like burning my lap!

If I were doing a desktop I'd still do an XP as well, but they really do run hotter.
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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Those are laptop chips

I'm talking PC chips, not Mobile chips.

Believe me, the Athlons of today run cooler than P4's. For example, the 2400+ XP runs at an average temperature of 45 Celcius with stock cooler (which is about 2.5 inches by 2 inches width by length) while a P4 2.4 GHz will run around 56-60 Celcius with stock cooling and the heat sink is MASSIVE, like 4 inches by 3.5 inches and weighs about 200 tons
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by LordVagabond
Those are laptop chips

I'm talking PC chips, not Mobile chips.

Believe me, the Athlons of today run cooler than P4's. For example, the 2400+ XP runs at an average temperature of 45 Celcius with stock cooler (which is about 2.5 inches by 2 inches width by length) while a P4 2.4 GHz will run around 56-60 Celcius with stock cooling and the heat sink is MASSIVE, like 4 inches by 3.5 inches and weighs about 200 tons
No sir. I own a "desknote" notebook. It uses desktop processor and ram.

Thus I had a desktop 1800+ XP (1.53 Ghz), and I now have a desktop P4 2.4GHz, and desktop 512MB DDR Ram...

P4 is definitely cooler.
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by LordVagabond
Those are laptop chips

I'm talking PC chips, not Mobile chips.

Believe me, the Athlons of today run cooler than P4's. For example, the 2400+ XP runs at an average temperature of 45 Celcius with stock cooler (which is about 2.5 inches by 2 inches width by length) while a P4 2.4 GHz will run around 56-60 Celcius with stock cooling and the heat sink is MASSIVE, like 4 inches by 3.5 inches and weighs about 200 tons
Koala is correct P4 chips run a lot cooler. Benchmarks throughout the net has proven the p4's run cooler then the XP athlon. To even prove my point look at how the p4's are being over clocked. I've seen p4 2.0's reach 3.0 with heatsinks alone (friend did it as well), with athlon you can barely bump a 1.4 to even 1.7 without going water cooling. I've been into o/c for the past 4 years. I have a AMD 1700, and I give credit where credit is due and Intel right now is ahead of AMD, as AMD was ahead 2 y ears ago.

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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 11:19 PM
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??? Maybe my info is wrong... I'll go and ask my buddies to retest the temps... maybe they got the #'s the wrong way.

I'll defer for now, even though I will take an AMD over any P4 any day
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 08:15 AM
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Motherboard = Asus P4G8X, HyperThread and Dual DDR Support

Hyperthread is only on 3.06Ghz and up Intel CPU's but board can handle the next gen of CPUs.

I would get an ATI 8X AGP Card with at least 128mb ram.

Also get DDR333 with CAS/CL 2.0 NOT 2.5 (corsair is a good brand)

CL = Clock Latency

Hard Drive = Western Digital 120GB with 8mb Cache (wd1200JB)

Have fun!

I'm building a computer too, That's why I know this.

Website to buy hardware:
www.pricewatch.com
www.googlegear.com
www.newegg.com
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by enzyme
Motherboard = Asus P4G8X, HyperThread and Dual DDR Support

Hyperthread is only on 3.06Ghz and up Intel CPU's but board can handle the next gen of CPUs.

I would get an ATI 8X AGP Card with at least 128mb ram.

Also get DDR333 with CAS/CL 2.0 NOT 2.5 (corsair is a good brand)

CL = Clock Latency

Hard Drive = Western Digital 120GB with 8mb Cache (wd1200JB)

Have fun!

I'm building a computer too, That's why I know this.

Website to buy hardware:
www.pricewatch.com
www.googlegear.com
www.newegg.com
Everything is top notch PC parts you have chose, but I can't wait for serial hard drives when they come out. That's going to make 8mb cache look weak.

Ram you want is the Corsair XMS.

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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by SpEeDxXxRaCeR
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Everything is top notch PC parts you have chose, but I can't wait for serial hard drives when they come out.
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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check tom's hardware site also for what info u might need
as for ram i would go with ddr only 4-5% difference compared to Rambus
I think 512mb ram would be enough.
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