Consumer Reports: Honda now #1 in quality.
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Consumer Reports: Honda now #1 in quality.
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Not really shocked, as Toyota and Honda have always been neck and neck in the quality department. The major recalls in the last 2 years finally just pushed them down. The real shocker is see'ing Ford skyrocket the way it has, both as a brand as well as public perception.
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Originally Posted by whiteflash,Jan 6 2011, 12:21 PM
The real shocker is see'ing Ford skyrocket the way it has, both as a brand as well as public perception.
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Ford is no surprise. While I still find their vehicles overweight, they definitely have the styling and features down pat, plus the have an interesting lineup with some good technology. It'll be interesting to see what kind of reliability their most recent offerings get (the EcoBoost motor, specifically, plus the new truck and Mustang motors).
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Originally Posted by JonBoy,Jan 6 2011, 11:41 AM
Ford is no surprise. While I still find their vehicles overweight, they definitely have the styling and features down pat, plus the have an interesting lineup with some good technology. It'll be interesting to see what kind of reliability their most recent offerings get (the EcoBoost motor, specifically, plus the new truck and Mustang motors).
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I did see them. It's neat stuff, sure. I just prefer to see how they last in real life. Turbos, especially, make me nervous for long-term reliability and since nearly everyone seems to be headed towards them, I'm very curious to see how well they hold up in mainstream cars. Can we expect 200K miles out of a stock turbo and engine?
Remember when Mercedes said they did something like 1,000,000 miles on their C-Class before releasing it to the public and it turned out to be as bad (or mediocre) as any of their other cars? Something about real-world use seems to do something that no number of tests can replicate.
Remember when Mercedes said they did something like 1,000,000 miles on their C-Class before releasing it to the public and it turned out to be as bad (or mediocre) as any of their other cars? Something about real-world use seems to do something that no number of tests can replicate.
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The main problem with the stress tests is the time frame - for example take that eco boost torture test.
The entire test is done in weeks - maybe a month, the chief testing engineer even said it himself.
The issue here is there is not enough time for the rubber/plastic/seals/some metals to degrade and not enough time for the components to start aging - in the real world the combination of time + stress over time will significantly accelerate the wear and tear of the engine.
The entire test is done in weeks - maybe a month, the chief testing engineer even said it himself.
The issue here is there is not enough time for the rubber/plastic/seals/some metals to degrade and not enough time for the components to start aging - in the real world the combination of time + stress over time will significantly accelerate the wear and tear of the engine.
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