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He saw all the little kids playing in the mall that were going to die. He made the right decision.
Maybe you're just a sicko and have no problem gassing little kids.
not necessarily. he took a chance which easily could had resulted in the deaths of those kids anyway. what if he wasn't able to disable the cannisters just by pulling the wires apart?? what if the security guard wasn't lying so close to him that he can reach him to get the keys to unlock the handcuffs?? what if the victims dying in the foodcourt were kids instead of adults?? sure, it could be argued that jack made the decision he made cuz he wasn't expecting the terrorist to have found another way to arm the cannisters, which i guess makes sense. but it's all the other loose ends in this season's writing, to me, that doesn't make this season as good as previous seasons. i've already mentioned some of the discrepancies and randomness in detail in this post as well as previous posts, such as jack being able to disable the cannister by pulling wires, the terrorist being able to hot wire a car just by pulling off a steering column panel and 2 wires fall out that are already precrimped, the 15 year old sex slave possessing a gun that she uses to kill the old man, etc. a lot of these details are random and loose ended. it almost feels as if the writer is just forcing together a bunch of random details hoping to make the story exciting. in season 3, when chase edmunds straps the cannister of virus to his wrist, jack was not able to disarm it just by pulling a few wires. instead, he had to make the difficult choice to chop off chase's hand so that he can take the armed cannister, find an air tight fridge, place the cannister in it, so that the virus could be contained when the cannister released the virus. now that was intense and exciting writing. similarly, in the same season, when the virus was released, in the hotel's ventilation system, the CTU agent (i forget his name) wasn't able to get to it in time to disable the release of the virus, and they ended up having to quarantine the whole hotel and had to deal with the new problem of dealing with panicking people and people trying to escape. sure, it may seem random that michelle dessler ended up surviving because she had the antibodies in her system that made her immune to the virus, but at least it made sense, for with any viruses/bacterias, someone may randomly have the antibody in their system that will make them immune to the virus/bacteria. now, that too, was intense and exciting writing. there were no loose ends, and no absurd randomness involved. on top of that, that particular part of the storyline played with our emotions, cuz for a few episodes, we were wondering if michelle, one of the more beloved characters, was going to die. and what about the scene (i forget which season) when jack made the difficult decision to abide by the terrorist's demand to kill ryan chapelle?? it wasn't an easy thing for jack to do, but he understood that some sacrifices were necessary in order to save a larger number of people. and what about last season when jack had to torture audrie's husband in front of her and ended up to choose to sacrifice his life so that the docs can save the chinese witness's life?? it is stuff like these that make the show as great as it has been. jack is always confronted with difficult decisions, but the consequences of his decisions are not always without unfortunate sacrifices. so far this season, jack's been extremely lucky. the consequences of his decision hasn't turned out as bad as it could or should had been. jack's day has been relatively easy so far compared with previous seasons. even in the medical room when jack went to see tony almeada, it was convenient and "fortunate" for jack to have seen the reflection of his killer through a monitor screen in the room. now, c'mon, that's just too easy for jack bauer. but back to last night's episode, i have no problem with jack making the decision to disobey orders, but at least when the cannister was releasing the nerve gas, jack should not had been able to disable it so easily, if at all, without at least contacting CTU for assistance and instructions first. the release of that cannister should had been more catastrophic. more people in the mall should had died, and CTU as well as the white house should had to deal with this new problem, instead of jack just so conveniently fixing the problem in 3 minutes, and the focus is back on the wild goose chase of locating the rest of the cannisters. i'm sorry if you guys disagree, but this is not good writing to me. don't get me wrong, i'm a huge fan of the show, but that doesn't mean i can't criticize it if this season hasn't met the standard the show has created for itself throughout the past 4 years.
[QUOTE=Spa02S2K,Feb 14 2006, 08:32 AM] But if Jack got to the canisters so quickly in the season... what happens to the rest of the 17 or so episodes left??
Originally Posted by VTEC_Junkie,Feb 14 2006, 11:30 PM
don't get me wrong, i'm a huge fan of the show, but that doesn't mean i can't criticize it if this season hasn't met the standard the show has created for itself throughout the past 4 years.
I TOTALLY AGREE!! The last two episodes have been relatively crappy compared to previous seasons. This season, as a matter of fact... the kid he befriended while he was in hiding, was NOT FIFTEEN, he looked 18 or so... but I was willing to let that slide. I dunno.
24 is still the only reason I watch TV on Mondays, but I wish they would clean it up a bit.