Do you smoke cigarettes?
Originally Posted by PuFF,Sep 15 2008, 07:23 AM
yes i smoke
Originally Posted by Clemsons2k,Sep 15 2008, 05:55 AM
Word. I have no problem with smokers as far as them as people or their choice. But they don't take into consideration that others don't want to smell that shit or have it blown in their faces.
A lot of my friends smoke, but I always make it clear that I don't want them smoking in my car or blowing smoke in my direction.
A lot of my friends smoke, but I always make it clear that I don't want them smoking in my car or blowing smoke in my direction.
Personally I don't find it inconsiderate having a test pipe, but many, many people do. Different strokes. There's no scientific data or literature that shows 2nd hand smoke has any ill effects so let 'em smoke. If you don't like it just walk away.
Originally Posted by Brennon,Sep 15 2008, 10:08 AM
Not everyone wants to be forced to listen to a four banger with a test pipe...why so inconsiderate?
Personally I don't find it inconsiderate having a test pipe, but many, many people do. Different strokes. There's no scientific data or literature that shows 2nd hand smoke has any ill effects so let 'em smoke. If you don't like it just walk away.
Personally I don't find it inconsiderate having a test pipe, but many, many people do. Different strokes. There's no scientific data or literature that shows 2nd hand smoke has any ill effects so let 'em smoke. If you don't like it just walk away.
Well to refute the testpipe comment, nobody can hear the difference
I also never said that I cared if they smoked or not. I just said I don't appreciate it when people blow it in my face. And I do walk away if they continue to do so.
Originally Posted by Clemsons2k,Sep 15 2008, 10:16 AM
Where did I say it caused ill effects
Originally Posted by Brennon,Sep 15 2008, 12:08 PM
There's no scientific data or literature that shows 2nd hand smoke has any ill effects so let 'em smoke.
http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=35422
Originally Posted by ajlafleche,Sep 15 2008, 10:57 AM

Since you gents are showing your lack of education in the sciences and want to link me to the heart and lung association (the equivalent of MADD when trying to obtain drunk driving data) how about some real data?This was a THIRTY-NINE year study that followed 35,000 non-smoking californians to determine the effects of SHS and found no statistical correlation between SHS and mortality. Good luck finding anything better.
BMJ 2003;326;1057-
James E Enstrom and Geoffrey C Kabat
Californians, 1960-98
related mortality in a prospective study of
Environmental
Conclusion
The results of the California CPS I cohort do not support
a causal relation between exposure to environ-
mental tobacco smoke and tobacco related mortality,
although they do not rule out a minute effect. Given the
limitations of the underlying data in this and the other
studies of environmental tobacco smoke and the small
size of the risk, it seems premature to conclude that
environmental tobacco smoke causes death from
coronary heart disease and lung cancer.
Originally Posted by mxt_77,Sep 15 2008, 10:33 AM
Are you serious?
http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=35422
http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=35422
Now if you actually DO go research it, you'll probably find two dozen studies indicating a relationship between tobacco smoking and decreased risk of Alzheimers and Parkinson's. Give up the google searches and head over to pubmed.


