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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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Still got your head stuck in the sand?

"The Truth About Secondhand Smoke

An estimated 35,052 nonsmokers die from coronary heart disease (CHD) each year as a result of exposure to environmental tobacco smoke."

-American Heart Lung Association.

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jht...ntifier=3039906



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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Currahee474,Sep 15 2008, 04:28 PM
Still got your head stuck in the sand?

"The Truth About Secondhand Smoke

An estimated 35,052 nonsmokers die from coronary heart disease (CHD) each year as a result of exposure to environmental tobacco smoke."

-American Heart Lung Association.

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jht...ntifier=3039906



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Apparently illiterate as well... I asked for actual data. There's NO possible way to come up with a figure such as 35,052 die a year from SHS. That figure has actually been revised five times. They don't cite the study they obtained the information from as there is none. Really--there is absolutely no scientific research to validate that. It was pulled straight from someone's ass.

I post a 30+ year study involving 35,000 people and you give me this? I've spent the last three years studying the physiological effects of smoking and you really think I'm impressed by the american heart assocation? It's more concerned with turning a profit than protecting individuals. (MADD as well. Drunk driving statistics are bogus)




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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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No need to be a condescending ass wipe.


here read the actual report.

http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/cgi/reprint/12/12/1544

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/286/4/436
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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oh p.s.


California Environmental Protection Agency. Health Effects of Exposure to Environmental Tobacco Smoke. June 2005. Available at: http://www.oehha.ca.gov/air/environmental_...p3partb2005.pdf. Accessed October 15, 2007.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health. Current Intelligence Bulletin 54: Environmental Tobacco Smoke in the Workplace -- Lung Cancer and Other Health Effects. 1991. (Publication No. 91-108) Available at: http://www.cdc.gov/nasd/docs/d001001-d0011...30/d001030.html. Accessed October 15, 2007.

Environmental Protection Agency. Respiratory Health Effects of Passive Smoking: Lung Cancer and Other Disorders. Washington, DC: Environmental Protection Agency; 1992. (Report # EPA/600/6-90/006F) Available at: http://cfpub2.epa.gov/ncea/cfm/recor....cfm?deid=2835. Accessed October 15, 2007.

Patten CA, Gilpin E, Cavin SW, et al. Workplace smoking policy and changes in smoking behaviour in California: A suggested association. Tobacco Control. 1995;4:36-41.

Pirkle JL, Flegal KM, Bernert JT, et al. Exposure of the US population to environmental tobacco smoke: The Third National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, 1988 to 1991. JAMA. 1996;275:1233-1240.

Schuster MA, Franke T, Pham CB. Smoking patterns of household members and visitors in homes with children in the United States. Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med. 2002;156:1094-1100.

Steenland K. Passive smoking and the risk of heart disease. JAMA. 1992;267:94-99.

US Department of Health and Human Services. 11th Report on Carcinogens. Public Health Service -- National Toxicology Program. 2005. Available at: http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntpweb/index.cfm?...F769DFE5509AF0A. Accessed October 15, 2007.

US Department of Health and Human Services. The Health Consequences of Involuntary Exposure to Tobacco Smoke: A Report of the Surgeon General. Washington, DC: Department of Health and Human Services; 2006. Available at: http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/secondhandsmoke/. Accessed October 15, 2007.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Brennon,Sep 15 2008, 04:25 PM
The debate over smoking really boils down to telling people what they can or cannot do to themselves.
Fine.

When/if you develop lung cancer from smoking (second hand or not), don't use health insurance to pay for any treatments so mine can be cheaper.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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I smoke about a dozen cigars a year. I used to smoke shisha [hookah] several times a week but have cut down considerably, I do it probably once every two weeks now. Never got in to cigs and never will. Taste and smell like death.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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I smoke 2+ packs a day...
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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i smoke only hookas

not cancer sticks
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Currahee474,Sep 14 2008, 09:44 PM
ummm.... 1 cig per month? wtf just buy a cigar so you don't sound like a pansy.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Currahee474,Sep 15 2008, 05:40 PM
No need to be a condescending ass wipe.


here read the actual report.

http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/cgi/reprint/12/12/1544

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/286/4/436
If someone tries to patronize me I'll give it right back...

Okay, I'll be friendly.

The actual 'report' is merely correlational research. (e.g. smoking mothers have lower birthweight babies...okay, what other drugs were they using? heroine? cocaine? aspirin? alcohol? There was no control group. That is not say to say that smoking is good for a fetus, but you get my point)

If you post up the abstracts of the research you cited I'll be happy to respond. Reading through 300 pages of information is a bit much for a forum.
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