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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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there's really no argument, eating breakfast (and more small meals vs. fewer big ones) gets your metabolism going and going faster.

people can definitely reach their goals without breakfast, but you're still better off with it

and if you don't want to eat breakfast that's fine, but anyone and everyone could eat a granola bar on the way out the door/driving to work.

i've heard that it's better for you to eat something that's bad for you (snickers, mcgriddle, etc) for breakfast than to not eat anything.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by vader1,Oct 8 2010, 10:38 AM
If anybody is just looking for fat bruning as opposed to building some muscle mass, I have done a few of the workouts for "Insanity" (by beachbody) and they are ruthless. Supposed to burn 1000 calories in a 40 or so minute workout but they are grueling. WOuld like to do the whole 60 days, but just a bad time to get started right now. Shooting for next month.

The 20 minute fitness test kind of wore me out. I always thought plyo was the hardest P90x workout, but these are far more intense cardio/leg work than plyo is.
I hate Insanity!!! That's the hardest workout I've ever done in my life, you're right, Plyo is the hardest in P90 especially when I started doing it and can easily blow through it after a month of doing it.

But pick any workout of Insanity and it will punish and beat you senseless!

I'm trying to eat right now and am trying to do a hybrid workout starting this week.

3 days P90X (All the weight workouts)

3 days Insanity


Going to see how that works out for me, want to get lean and bulk up a bit within a month for my trip to Cancun

Just need to eat right which is the hardest part!
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by my2ks2k,Oct 11 2010, 11:44 AM
i've heard that it's better for you to eat something that's bad for you (snickers, mcgriddle, etc) for breakfast than to not eat anything.
Sorry, but forgive me if I don't just go along with things "I've heard." "I've heard" quite the opposite. There are people (nutritionists and Dr's) who says it's good to starve (to a degree), and good for your body, and that we weren't designed to be eating constantly (many small meals). I've read quite a bit on the subject, and the only thing we conclusively know about our diets and nutrition, is that we really don't know conclusively what's best for us. Period. As we continue to learn more, we constantly change what we think is best for us. Remember how everyone was concerned about fat in the 80/90's (thinking it caused heart disease), such that everything had fat removed from it? Heart disease didn't fall, but has actually gotten worse. Now there's a diabetes epidemic. Like I said, it's interesting truly how little we *know.* Keep in mind, what we "think" is not what we *know*

However, eating crap just for the sake of eating something for breakfast sounds like terrible "I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend" advice. If I've learned anything about nutrition, anyone who speaks conclusively as if they know absolutely what is best, doesn't know what they're talking about.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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You kind of ignored the whole point of that post and focused on the one over-the-top example he used to illustrate it.

Small meals throughout the day keep your metabolism up and running on high so to speak and give you plenty of energy for ... whatever it is you do during the day. Eating excessive portions like most of this country does for every meal is obviously worse for your metabolism. Eating nothing also slows your metabolism.

Yes, in the realm of nutrition, there are still many questions on how our dietary decisions will affect our overall health. No, there isn't some absolute rule on how to eat perfectly healthy and live a long life as a result.

That doesn't mean skipping meals or starving yourself is ever a good idea. You'll have less energy until you do eat, and your metabolism will be slower which will lead to more calories converted to fat. It isn't rocket science.


annnnnnyway sorry for contributing to the thread derail in progress
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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[QUOTE=thebig33tuna,Oct 12 2010, 10:26 AM] Small meals throughout the day keep your metabolism up and running on high so to speak and give you plenty of energy for ... whatever it is you do during the day.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by thebig33tuna,Oct 12 2010, 10:26 AM
That doesn't mean skipping meals or starving yourself is ever a good idea. You'll have less energy until you do eat, and your metabolism will be slower which will lead to more calories converted to fat. It isn't rocket science.
LOL.. Your whole post wreaks of hearsay and regurgitating something someone else told you. Like I posted in my previous post, the notion that eating more often/smaller meals leading to a faster metabolism is BS. I guess this is just a continuation of that flawed logic. There are studies that say "starving" your body is good for you (I'll give you a hint, it brings down your insulin levels.. ). So please.. let's not have the wannabe experts here in this thread spouting off stuff they read in a health magazine as fact. It does everyone a disservice, and I personally despise people disseminating wrong/bad information.

As I said in my previous post above.. The best thing I've found to lead to good health is reduce/avoid sugar intake #1, don't overeat #2, try to avoid eating "junk" (ya, this is intentionally vague) #3, and exercise #4.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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Not to derail this thread off the p90x topic, but this does deal with nutrition in general, and it's very interesting and fascinating. It's worth reading through/thinking about all the info in this blog if you're used to getting all your information from the latest fad and exercise magazine (which clearly several people here do).. It might be a little "radical" to some folks here (as it goes against conventional wisdom in many respects), and I don't follow it, but I certainly think there is interesting/good advice in this blog that is worth noting. Caution, this may make some folks' head hurt.

http://www.paleonu.com/what-is-panu/
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowTeg,Oct 12 2010, 01:42 PM
As I said in my previous post above.. The best thing I've found to lead to good health is reduce/avoid sugar intake #1, don't overeat #2, try to avoid eating "junk" (ya, this is intentionally vague) #3, and exercise #4.
Wow. I'll stop this thread derail by completely agreeing with the part of your two posts that I quoted above. Have a lovely day sir.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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pardon me, i wasn't aware we had an MD in this thread.

i like how you follow up

A bunch of people who do little/no research, try something out for themselves, and it works for them, and then they go preaching to everyone else.
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The best thing I've found to lead to good health is reduce/avoid sugar intake #1, don't overeat #2, try to avoid eating "junk" (ya, this is intentionally vague) #3, and exercise #4.
ah i see. everyone else is supposed to read the medical journals and do the testing themselves, or we could listen to you and get the same benefits.

sorry, but....


for example, http://www.clinicalcorrelations.org/?p=1525

"A step in the right direction is to start off the morning by listening to the myth that breakfast is the most important meal of the day."


do a quick google search. hell, i'll do it for you:eating vs skipping breakfast

a quick scan pretty much shows exactly what i said earlier. what, are all the doctors/scientists who tout skipping breakfast hiding their findings?

sure your 4 steps to being healthy are good ideas. and genius! why didn't anyone else think of those? but your idea that skipping breakfast is just as healthy as eating it...completely wrong. sorry.

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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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all that said, i'm eager to start P90x soon!
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