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Old Feb 5, 2002 | 06:06 PM
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On a serious note, Enron is a great example of what is wrong with the corporate world today.

It is so important to be able to inflate your worth in order to increase your capitalization.

It is also so easy to artificially create positions through the use of synthetic instruments.
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Old Feb 6, 2002 | 02:59 AM
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btw, is it possible to do that stuff that was mentioned?? i mean about all the debt/equity swaps and shit and borrowing
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Old Feb 6, 2002 | 04:14 AM
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Originally posted by blacks2k
btw, is it possible to do that stuff that was mentioned?? i mean about all the debt/equity swaps and shit and borrowing
Yes, but only for so long, although maybe for a little longer than most if a couple of the cows are donated to prominent politicians.
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Old Feb 6, 2002 | 05:00 AM
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There is still the EU version:

EUROPEAN DEMOCRACY:
You have two cows. The EU commission decides which regulations for feeding
and milking apply. If there aren't any, they invent some. They pay you not
to milk the cows. They take both cows, shoot one, milk the other and pour
the milk down the drain. They then require you to fill out forms accounting
for the missing cows.
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Old Feb 6, 2002 | 05:43 AM
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WHOOSH...right over my head
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Old Feb 6, 2002 | 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by blacks2k
btw, is it possible to do that stuff that was mentioned?? i mean about all the debt/equity swaps and shit and borrowing



That is the point I'm making about leveraging and using synthetics.
Any other financial engineers out there or are you all in IT?
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Old Feb 6, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by Luis
There is still the EU version:

EUROPEAN DEMOCRACY:
You have two cows. The EU commission decides which regulations for feeding
and milking apply. If there aren't any, they invent some. They pay you not
to milk the cows. They take both cows, shoot one, milk the other and pour
the milk down the drain. They then require you to fill out forms accounting
for the missing cows.

At least you would get more money that way than you would if you had tried to build a business just milking them.....
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Old Feb 6, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Bernie
Any other financial engineers out there or are you all in IT?
I used to be a financial engineer (PIMCO - 5 years), and I can tack CFA after my name.

Now I'm a cost estimator and risk analyst. And a mathematics teacher. And a magician. And . . . .

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Old Feb 6, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by magician
[B]

I used to be a financial engineer (PIMCO - 5 years), and I can tack CFA after my name.

Now I'm a cost estimator and risk analyst.
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