So last season, when Michael Schumacher was killing everyone, why didn't other teams speak up and say "Our cars and drivers are not suitable to compete with Ferrari. If we try to take corners as fast as Ferrari we'll crash. They must be slowed down."?

Isn't that the whole point of racing? The objective is too have a better set-up than your opponent so that you can corner faster and perform better. Whose fault is it that Michelin was inferior? Not the Bridgestone teams.

So the Michelin teams have to take turn 13 slower? Oh well.

Thems the breaks. Just like when the last driver to qualify starts his hot lap just as it starts to rain hard. Oh well.

 

Or what happens when one of your players scores an own goal during the world cup

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/...000/1842805.stm

And you do know its football not soccer

 

[QUOTE=LTB,Jun 21 2005, 05:34 AM] Or what happens when one of your players scores an own goal during the world cup

 

There's been quite a big discussion covering all sides on the UK board, pop over and have a look if you're interested.

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...c=298402&st=25

 

There were three lawsuits filed in the city of Indianapolis. One is a Colorado man who seeks punitive damages as well as a refund of the ticket purchase price (five tickets).

 

According to my wife, one of the articles that described the fiasco said that after the race there were at least 100 fans lined up to purchase tickets for next year's race.

Must be Ferrari/Jordan/Minardi fans.

The letter from the FIA to the seven Michelin-shod teams seems to sum up the situation adequately. Those teams didn't bring competitive equipment; the Bridgestone teams did. There is no reason to penalize the Bridgestone teams by installing a chicane: they didn't need to slow down for turn 13. (Additionally, building a makeshift chicane creates all sorts of potential liability issues.) If these teams couldn't drive flat-out on turn 13 it's their responsibility to slow down. The FIA even offered to monitor the cars for excessive speed. It's hard to imagine what more the FIA could have done.

Peter Windsor had an interesting observation: none of these seven teams has accepted any responsibility for what happened. Isn't it McLaren's responsibility to bring a competitive car to the race? Isn't having proper tires part of that responsibility? Can't the same be said for Renault, Williams, BAR, et al?

Max Mosley has said that these seven teams should foot the bill for reimbursing the fans. He's right.

 

Monteiro was an bigger embarrassment to F1 than the whole Michelin boycott, retard was all giddy that he was on podium, took him till halfway through press conference to realize that his podium was handed to him and he still didn't realize what a retard he was, then he had to make some idiot comment about how no one can take his podium finish away from him.

 

I'd say that Michelin should foot the bill, not the teams.

Who else could the teams have turned to to get tyres under the circumstances ?

Imagine you're driving your S on a brand new set of tyres and you have a blow out and crash badly. You later find that the tyre was defective for the job it was supplied to do.

Would you blame Honda or the tyre manufacturer ?

 

Your analogy is a non sequitur. Those seven teams had the opportunity to test those tires at Indy and failed to take advantage of it: they should have known well before the fact that the tires weren't up to snuff. Furthermore, they could have brought along lower-performance, more durable tires as backups and failed to do that.

McLaren, Williams, et al should reimburse the fans because they failed to uphold their end of the contract. If they feel that it was out of their hands, then they should go after Michelin. That, too, is their responsibility, not the fans'.

 

I was of the impression that michelin were not allowed to conduct tests at Indy, but I bow to superior knowledge. IIRC the teams are also extremely limited as to the number of tests that they can conduct during 1 season. I'm pretty sure they all signed up to an agreement apart from Ferrari.

Seeing that most teams are based in Europe, it would be an aweful long way to go for just 1 test.

I still hold that it was Michelin's screw up and not the teams, but I respect your opinion.