This father has nothing to appologize for
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Originally Posted by JoeyBalls,Sep 23 2010, 04:49 AM
Society is weak, what should have happened was the father drag the kids off the bus and curbed each and every one of those jerkoffs and received a medal, however in our twisted society the parents of the bullies will probably turn around ans sue the school system for allowing the father to come on the bus
What's preventing you? Psst!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by vtec9,Sep 23 2010, 09:23 AM
So your disabled daughter is having condoms thrown at her, and having her ears twisted, and whatever else was going on.. yet you'd go straight to the principals office? Seriously? No.
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Originally Posted by The Gasman,Sep 23 2010, 07:08 AM
I'm sure their society is much less strict in law and order. You shouldn't bite the hand that feeds/fed you. In this society of law and order, it gave you a good chance to go to school to become a doctor and drive a Lambo. What would you have done in India? In India, perhaps you could beat and harass minors and get away with it, but not in this society of law and order.
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Originally Posted by vtec9,Sep 23 2010, 01:23 PM
So your disabled daughter is having condoms thrown at her, and having her ears twisted, and whatever else was going on.. yet you'd go straight to the principals office? Seriously? No.
Those little punks on the bus need to be taught a lesson. So a grownup yells at them, boo-fucking boohoo. It's time those little turds learned a lesson.
And yes--I live in the same county as that father-and the vast majority of people support him.
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Originally Posted by zdave87,Sep 23 2010, 03:53 PM
And yes--I live in the same county as that father-and the vast majority of people support him.
^ I CANNOT MAKE IT ANY CLEARER THAN THAT.
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Originally Posted by Steponme,Sep 23 2010, 08:09 PM
Well, I don't support some lunatic storming onto a bus FULL OF OTHER KIDS. The parents of the OTHER KIDS must not have liked that at all. If some lunatic storming onto a bus with my child on it, I'd surely as hell be pissed, regardless of his reason. If you wanna harass, beat up, anally rape, or kill the perps, then fine, do it where no other kids are in the way, but do not act like an idiot in the vicinity of OTHER KIDS.
^ I CANNOT MAKE IT ANY CLEARER THAN THAT.
^ I CANNOT MAKE IT ANY CLEARER THAN THAT.
So if your daughter is about to be killed by some punk kids don't do anything about it because you might scare the other kids?
Kids aren't retards. I think they can recognize a bully, and assuming they are being raised properly, they've probably been disciplined (whatever sort of discipline that may be) for some sort of bad behavior. I think they're familiar with angry adults yelling at misbehaving children. No one's going to need therapy. Oh wait, except for the disabled girl who's had condoms thrown on her and continues to be tormented for weeks on end because a school's bureaucratic system moves about as fast as the government's and you, her dad, decided to approach the principal instead of actually trying to protect your child from immediate harm.
I really don't care one way or another what the law says. Breaking the law isn't taboo. You get punished, and if you deem the consequences of not breaking the law to be worse than the punishment, why not?
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Originally Posted by tarheel91,Sep 23 2010, 05:29 PM
Ready, I'm about to do what you just did with your lovely hypothetical situation where the dad kills them.
So if your daughter is about to be killed by some punk kids don't do anything about it because you might scare the other kids?
Kids aren't retards. I think they can recognize a bully, and assuming they are being raised properly, they've probably been disciplined (whatever sort of discipline that may be) for some sort of bad behavior. I think they're familiar with angry adults yelling at misbehaving children. No one's going to need therapy. Oh wait, except for the disabled girl who's had condoms thrown on her and continues to be tormented for weeks on end because a school's bureaucratic system moves about as fast as the government's and you, her dad, decided to approach the principal instead of actually trying to protect your child from immediate harm.
I really don't care one way or another what the law says. Breaking the law isn't taboo. You get punished, and if you deem the consequences of not breaking the law to be worse than the punishment, why not?
So if your daughter is about to be killed by some punk kids don't do anything about it because you might scare the other kids?
Kids aren't retards. I think they can recognize a bully, and assuming they are being raised properly, they've probably been disciplined (whatever sort of discipline that may be) for some sort of bad behavior. I think they're familiar with angry adults yelling at misbehaving children. No one's going to need therapy. Oh wait, except for the disabled girl who's had condoms thrown on her and continues to be tormented for weeks on end because a school's bureaucratic system moves about as fast as the government's and you, her dad, decided to approach the principal instead of actually trying to protect your child from immediate harm.
I really don't care one way or another what the law says. Breaking the law isn't taboo. You get punished, and if you deem the consequences of not breaking the law to be worse than the punishment, why not?
Kids have always picked on other kids, and it will always happen until the end of humankind. The daughter was about to be killed by other kids?
Then that's a different situation, sonny boy. Come back and talk to me when your brain is about the size of my fist; right now it's just the size of my toe. Go away!
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Originally Posted by tarheel91,Sep 24 2010, 09:24 PM
A different situation? You don't say. Kind of like when you said "Here's taking this situation to the next level. What if the bullies sexually touched his daughter and he completely lost his mind, stormed onto a bus full of kids and started shooting the bullies? What of the other kids on the bus?"
You even admit you're "taking it to the next level." My point was your whole "what if *insert completely over the top and incomparable situation here*" argument was stupid because it's A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATION. If you can see how it's different when the other side says it, I'd hope you can see the problem with it when you say something like that.
Back to the topic at hand. Kids get picked on all the time. I agree. That's why I said I don't think a parent needs to come over every time some incident occurs. However, this is not some minor incident. I never had a condom dumped on my head, and I can assure you I've dealt with my share of bullies.
Also, for the umpteenth time, this girl has cerebral palsy. While it primarily affects motor skills, it also affects perception in general (i.e. cognitive thinking, senses, etc.). What could be a particularly traumatizing event for a normal child that they eventually overcome after a few weeks could be disastrous for this girl and haunt her for the rest of her life. Again, in that situation scaring a few innocent kids is the least of my concerns. Chief among them is making sure my daughter is protected.
Finally, I find it ironic that you're attacking me about my maturity and life experience while resorting to personal attacks as your chief argument. That's pretty much the most immature thing someone can do in a discussion.
I agree I don't have the experience a lot of people in this topic have, but the way I see it, growing older and becoming a father would only make my feelings on this matter stronger. I'm not going to have a child and then suddenly realize I care less about him/her than I did before he/she existed. Plus, plenty of people with children have commented in this thread, and they all seem to agree with the sentiment that the father did the right thing.
You even admit you're "taking it to the next level." My point was your whole "what if *insert completely over the top and incomparable situation here*" argument was stupid because it's A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATION. If you can see how it's different when the other side says it, I'd hope you can see the problem with it when you say something like that.
Back to the topic at hand. Kids get picked on all the time. I agree. That's why I said I don't think a parent needs to come over every time some incident occurs. However, this is not some minor incident. I never had a condom dumped on my head, and I can assure you I've dealt with my share of bullies.
Also, for the umpteenth time, this girl has cerebral palsy. While it primarily affects motor skills, it also affects perception in general (i.e. cognitive thinking, senses, etc.). What could be a particularly traumatizing event for a normal child that they eventually overcome after a few weeks could be disastrous for this girl and haunt her for the rest of her life. Again, in that situation scaring a few innocent kids is the least of my concerns. Chief among them is making sure my daughter is protected.
Finally, I find it ironic that you're attacking me about my maturity and life experience while resorting to personal attacks as your chief argument. That's pretty much the most immature thing someone can do in a discussion.
I agree I don't have the experience a lot of people in this topic have, but the way I see it, growing older and becoming a father would only make my feelings on this matter stronger. I'm not going to have a child and then suddenly realize I care less about him/her than I did before he/she existed. Plus, plenty of people with children have commented in this thread, and they all seem to agree with the sentiment that the father did the right thing.
