What the hell is going on today???? It's 90 degrees down here by the beach today. I don't think there was a day during the summer it was this hot down here.

Really weird weather we've been having lately in So Cal. It got cold and rained, and now it's hotter than summer.

 

Mark-

You can anticipate lots of weird, poorly understood regional weather changes all over the world over the next few years because of global warming. This is a very serious problem that the Bush Asministration needs to address and get on board with the rest of the world now.

We usually get hot, dry weather sometime in August each year, but you're right, the sequence of climatic events has been weird all year. It's been the dryest year on record in LA.

 

Why is it that people are so quick to attribute unusual weather to some outside force, like global warming, as if weather is normally predictable? If global warming is really caused by human activity, why can't those geniuses who came up with the theory create a plan to control weather for humanity's benefit? Is it possible that global warming is simply a theory made up to explain normal climactic changes? Some people say the concept of a god was created to explain the behavior of the world around them. Global warming seems to fill the same void for some people.

I am not saying that people of the earth don't need to reduce their impact, but it seems arrogant to claim that industrial activity in a very small part of the world, for a very, very short period of time, geologically speaking, would irrevocably alter weather patterns worldwide.

Any thoughts?

 

It's a scientific fact, proven over and over again, now almost universally accepted in the scientific community, that the accelerated accumulation of greenhouse gases in the upper atmosphere, caused by increasing emissions from fosil fuels, is trapping heat that would otherwise escape from the earth's atmosphere. The indicators are everywhere: record increased mean worldwide temperatures year after year, hundreds of glaciers receding worldwide (Kilimanjaro Glacier is now projected to disappear within 20 years), higher ocean levels threatening low lying Pacific islands.

Hiding one's head in the sand, like the naysayers who for years argued that accumulation in the upper atrmosphere of aerosols from clorofluorocarbons and daughter breakdown compounds wasn't contributing to degradation of the ozone layer, allowing increased UV exposure, won't help.

Virtually the entire civilized world, except for the US, has committed to an agressive, long term strategy to reduce CO2 emissions in order to slow global warming.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Raptor
[B]Mark-

You can anticipate lots of weird, poorly understood regional weather changes all over the world over the next few years because of global warming.

 

Go Angels. You Gotta love that team.

 

sorry guys, i had a lot of beans last night. I'll try to be more careful where I let them rip

 

I remember doing a report when I was a senior in high school in 1970 (am I old or what???). I remember stating that the world would end in 20 years (1990) due to our accelerated pollution of the air, water, and ground. This is from many sources I researched it on. I was a minor tree hugger in my youth. Now that I have gotten older, I am having my doubts as to how much humans really contribute to the atmosphere. I also wonder how much mother nature adds to the air when she starts forest fires with her lightening or setting off volcanos and releasing a host of toxic gases.
We've been recording world temperatures for a miniscule amount of time compared to the age of the earth. How do we REALLY know that the ozone layer isn't doing it's normal thing periodically.
I am leaning towards the fact that this is just a natural weather phenomenon and not so much human related.
God help us all if I am wrong.

 

Oh yeah, and I think mankind will destroy the earth by his wars and greed before global warming does.

 

Beg pardon? It is NOT a fact, it is a theory. It may be accepted by people in that field. That doesn't make it a fact. The collected data matches the theory - great surprise, since the theory was based on the collected data.

Every day the sun rises because I say a little prayer. Don't you dispute it, I have proof. Every day I say my prayer, the sun rises!

No-one is hiding their head in the sand. America specifically, but every country in the world should try to reduce their emissions. Third-world countries can least afford this, so maybe more affluent countries should contribute to a fund that pays for ecologiacally safe technologies to be exported world-wide, inthe interest of preserving what we have.

The climate of the world is dynamic. Weather is dynamic. You should prepare for some messed up weather in the future, but this is because weather is messed up, not because of the Industrial Revolution. What happened when Mt. St. Helens erupted, spewing more gasses and detritus into the atmosphere than any factory could, ever? Did that have no effect, because it wasn't man-made? Or did it have a temporary effect, lasting only a year or two? We cannot answer that with certainty because the climate is too unstable as it is. Any input may cause change, but tracking those changes is impossible, because there are too many inputs and too much randomness in the system.

Behaving as if global warming is real, and trying to reduce emissions, is a good thing. Actually stating that the Industrial Revolution caused weather to go from predictable and constant to unpredictable and dynamic is hiding one's head in the sand.